Do you want to discuss boring politics? (11 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Couple of our clients at work employ hundreds of minimum wage, zero hours contract staff. They're all required to have smart phones to access work related things and the company will not provide them. Stuff like apps that show work rotas, authentication apps for logging on to work systems etc.

Should really be supplied by the business if it’s a requirement but the reality is if you haven't got a phone you aren't getting the job.

There is no legislation that enforces companies to provide phones and only cover expenses if data usage is excessive

 

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There is no legislation that enforces companies to provide phones and only cover expenses if data usage is excessive

But if you're making it so you have to have that sort of phone in order to be able to do the job then that's a barrier to work, especially for zero hours min. wage jobs.

 

[PVA]

Couple of our clients at work employ hundreds of minimum wage, zero hours contract staff. They're all required to have smart phones to access work related things and the company will not provide them. Stuff like apps that show work rotas, authentication apps for logging on to work systems etc.

Should really be supplied by the business if its a requirement but the reality is if you haven't got a phone you aren't getting the job.

We give our guys 25 quid a month towards their phone. Probably doesn't cover their full bill but it's something at least, as they need their phones for work purposes.

 

[Nuskyblue]

We give our guys 25 quid a month towards their phone. Probably doesn't cover their full bill but it's something at least, as they need their phones for work purposes.

25 a month will get you a serviceable hand set and a SIM tbh.

 

[Grendel]

But if you're making it so you have to have that sort of phone in order to be able to do the job then that's a barrier to work, especially for zero hours min. wage jobs.

As long as the condition has been pointed out the employee has agreed the terms

 

[chiefdave]

 

[Nick]

Starmer trying some diversion?

 

[shmmeee]

Is Tonty Blair behind this?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Not sure how this has gone under the radar, but it is deeply concerning.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not sure how this has gone under the radar, but it is deeply concerning.

Ethnicity and background

 

[Ian1779]

I am no fan of Starmer, but not having enough physical space in prisons months after taking office was not his doing. My own preference would be reduced sentences or fines for non violent offenders and longer sentences for violent criminals.

I heard Starmer said he’d rather this guy than one of those Just Stop Oil scammers.

 

[Captain Dart]

Not sure how this has gone under the radar, but it is deeply concerning.

I knew about it weeks ago.

Apart from anything else it is yet another cost to be paid from taxes.

 

[chiefdave]

If you're blood pressure is too low today and you want to wind yourself up about the state of the country watch the Stacey Dooley show about shoplifting

2000 attacks on store workers a day, over £2bn shoplifted a year, police uninterested, government changed the law 10 years ago to make shoplifting a minor offence. But then you get to the people who are shoplifting and the excuses they come out with. Let's just say we're a long way from any idea of people stealing food because they can't afford to eat.

 

[PVA]

If you're blood pressure is too low today and you want to wind yourself up about the state of the country watch the Stacey Dooley show about shoplifting

2000 attacks on store workers a day, over £2bn shoplifted a year, police uninterested, government changed the law 10 years ago to make shoplifting a minor offence. But then you get to the people who are shoplifting and the excuses they come out with. Let's just say we're a long way from any idea of people stealing food because they can't afford to eat.

I was in the Co-op the other day when two school girls got caught shoplifting. Think it was just a few chocolate bars.

The only punishment was being barred from the shop.

 

[shmmeee]

I was in the Co-op the other day when two school girls got caught shoplifting. Think it was just a few chocolate bars.

The only punishment was being barred from the shop.

Think teen shoplifting is a thrill thing, then you’ve got a lot of what seem to be adult addicts doing it for cash and to order, and some organised stuff. Makes sense to treat them differently tbh.

 

[chiefdave]

Think teen shoplifting is a thrill thing, then you’ve got a lot of what seem to be adult addicts doing it for cash and to order, and some organised stuff. Makes sense to treat them differently tbh.

the kids are on a different level these days. they weren't pinching something small for the thrill. they were emptying shelves and abusing or attacking staff when they tried to stop them.

then there was people who almost seemed addicted to shoplifting itself. people who had lost their jobs and didn't see why they should no longer have the same 'treats' they had when they were working.

there was also a bizarre group of people who seem to think they're on some sort of moral crusade against big business alongside people that think only paying for part of what you take is fine as shops have self service tills.

only one person on there was someone where you think to yourself I get why you're doing this. girl who had come out of an abusive relationship, was in emergency accommodation and was shoplifting stuff for her kid.

the astonishing thing was that half of people surveyed in there 20s didn't think there was anything wrong with shoplifting. Think we maybe fall into a trap of thinking things are the same as when we were young but that's def not the case here.

 

[Ian1779]

Absolutely tone deaf people

Amanda Spielman: Ofsted boss at time of Ruth Perry's death to get peerage

 

[Captain Dart]

I am not saying I agree with the people at this meeting, but this is rather heavy handed by the Police.

 

[Grendel]

the kids are on a different level these days. they weren't pinching something small for the thrill. they were emptying shelves and abusing or attacking staff when they tried to stop them.

then there was people who almost seemed addicted to shoplifting itself. people who had lost their jobs and didn't see why they should no longer have the same 'treats' they had when they were working.

there was also a bizarre group of people who seem to think they're on some sort of moral crusade against big business alongside people that think only paying for part of what you take is fine as shops have self service tills.

only one person on there was someone where you think to yourself I get why you're doing this. girl who had come out of an abusive relationship, was in emergency accommodation and was shoplifting stuff for her kid.

the astonishing thing was that half of people surveyed in there 20s didn't think there was anything wrong with shoplifting. Think we maybe fall into a trap of thinking things are the same as when we were young but that's def not the case here.

Yeah I know someone who is outrageously rich - apartments in Dubai and Singapore - and their daughter constantly pinches things from shops as it gives I assume an adrenaline rush

 

[chiefdave]

I am not saying I agree with the people at this meeting, but this is rather heavy handed by the Police.
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wtf is going on in the world. this is like something out of a comedy sketch. the thought police smashing the door down to be greeted by a group of women sat on the floor eating hummus before arresting them for something they haven't done yet.

Then to top it off giving a statement saying "we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest".

 

[Ian1779]

Speaking of tone deaf cunts

Justin Welby: Former Archbishop of Canterbury forgives serial abuser John Smyth

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I am not saying I agree with the people at this meeting, but this is rather heavy handed by the Police.
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Here is another one in the news yesterday. Honestly, the UK is a complete joke.

Shoplifting? Attacking someone? Theft? No...

Parents arrested by Hertfordshire police for complaining about daughter’s school

Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine say six officers came to their house after primary objected to WhatsApp comments

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Not sure how this has gone under the radar, but it is deeply concerning.

In fairness, the government is planning to legislate against this.

The sentencing council is another quango that needs to be heaped onto the pyre. It’s genuinely concerning that an unelected quango had the temerity to ignore a sitting PMs demand.

 

[Captain Dart]

In fairness, the government is planning to legislate against this.

The sentencing council is another quango that needs to be heaped onto the pyre. It’s genuinely concerning that an unelected quango had the temerity to ignore a sitting PMs demand.

MPs are forever saying they will reduce quangos but they don't, are we living in a Quangrocracy?

 

[shmmeee]

Your letter was only the start of it.

One letter and now you’re a part of it.

Now you’ve done it



For you, and you and you

 

[chiefdave]

Not sure how this has gone under the radar, but it is deeply concerning.

I knew about it weeks ago.

Apart from anything else it is yet another cost to be paid from taxes.

Some good news for you

The government will introduce legislation to Parliament this week to override independent guidance on how offenders from ethnic minorities should be sentenced.

It comes after the Sentencing Council refused a request from Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood to reconsider its new instructions for judges.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Your letter was only the start of it.

One letter and now you’re a part of it.

Now you’ve done it

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For you, and you and you

is that genuine?

Did no-one at all think of the connotations of that phrase?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Not much good economic news around these days but this could really help provide a boost. Hope the government jumps on the opportunity and tries to make this an attractive option for companies with their industrial strategy later this year

UK companies set to spend $650bn bringing their factories home

UK companies set to spend $650bn bringing their factories home

Worries about supply chains, logistical costs, uncertainty and tariffs have prompted a wave of reshoring and nearshoring

www.thetimes.com

 

[Grendel]

In the dog house

Minister attacks expenses rules after Labour MP’s claim for ‘pet rent’

Watchdog accepted Taiwo Owatemi’s claim for landlord’s surcharge to let her keep dog in London flat

www.theguardian.com

 

[Captain Dart]

In the dog house

Minister attacks expenses rules after Labour MP’s claim for ‘pet rent’

Watchdog accepted Taiwo Owatemi’s claim for landlord’s surcharge to let her keep dog in London flat

www.theguardian.com

Zarah Sultana MP for South Coventry campaigned against a 3rd runway at Heathrow due to her concerns about climate change is now supporting a campaign to build an airport in Pakistan.

Labour civil war brews as MP slams Starmer over 'reckless' Heathrow expansion

Zarah Sultana, Labour MP for Coventry South, opposes the Heathrow Airport expansion plans and claims the Prime Minister has U-turned on his initial stance.

www.express.co.uk

Another example of blatant hypocrisy from the political classes.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Zarah Sultana MP for South Coventry campaigned against a 3rd runway at Heathrow due to her concerns about climate change is now supporting a campaign to build an airport in Pakistan.

Labour civil war brews as MP slams Starmer over 'reckless' Heathrow expansion

Zarah Sultana, Labour MP for Coventry South, opposes the Heathrow Airport expansion plans and claims the Prime Minister has U-turned on his initial stance.

www.express.co.uk

Another example of blatant hypocrisy from the political classes.

Why are UK parliamentarians campaigning for airports in another country? It’s utterly ridiculous.

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

 

[Nick]

Zarah Sultana MP for South Coventry campaigned against a 3rd runway at Heathrow due to her concerns about climate change is now supporting a campaign to build an airport in Pakistan.

Labour civil war brews as MP slams Starmer over 'reckless' Heathrow expansion

Zarah Sultana, Labour MP for Coventry South, opposes the Heathrow Airport expansion plans and claims the Prime Minister has U-turned on his initial stance.

www.express.co.uk

Another example of blatant hypocrisy from the political classes.

Hypocrisy is what she does, an utter bellend. Remember when she was too scared to go to parliament because people weren't wearing masks but then was all over those awards at the Ricoh (was it mobos or something?) where people didn't have them on.

 

[Grendel]

Hypocrisy is what she does, an utter bellend. Remember when she was too scared to go to parliament because people weren't wearing masks but then was all over those awards at the Ricoh (was it mobos or something?) where people didn't have them on.

Brave Zarah Sultana Conquers Fear of Maskless Crowds

Guido's glad to see Zarah Sultana has quickly recovered from her crippling phobia of maskless crowds. Last night, the Labour MP attended the glitzy MOBO

order-order.com

 

[Nick]

Brave Zarah Sultana Conquers Fear of Maskless Crowds

Guido's glad to see Zarah Sultana has quickly recovered from her crippling phobia of maskless crowds. Last night, the Labour MP attended the glitzy MOBO

order-order.com

What's the actual point of her?