Isn’t the point that Boris needs Hancock for the enquiry so Hancock doesn’t also hang him out to dry? No honour amongst thieves and all that. If MHancock is no longer in the team who would he be protecting other than himself? I doubt his ego will allow him to not use the enquiry as an opportunity to try and rebuild his own personal reputation.
I'd normally go along with the last bit Steve but competence wise I don't see this lad becoming resurgent.But the info from scientists advisors, SAGE group minutes etc etc will tell the story. If Johnson has only got Hancock covering his back then he’s fucked anyway (Hancock’s got no credibility etc).
If Hancock leaves now he might even be back in the cabinet by the time of the inquiry….I know a few on here will be clambering for him to be made Education Secretary !
I'd normally go along with the last bit Steve but compitence wise I don't see this lad becoming resurgent.
I just see Pike from Dad's Army.
I'm really not so sure. If I were a scriptwriter for the Thick of It, he'd be providing a valuable service hanging around...Apart from anything else, unless he resigns and adopts a low profile for a long time, he couldn't be taken seriously in any interview. All you'd be able to focus on on is "what a cock" (yes, yes..}. I know Boris needs him for the inquiry, but he would be seriously damaging his party if he didn't have him resign.
I'm really not so sure. If I were a scriptwriter for the Thick of It, he'd be providing a valuable service hanging around...
tbh, my conspiracy theory (and it avoides judgements here, as I really don't want it to tip over into t'other thread!!) is similar to Cummings.Which is why thatcher kept on Gummer but there becomes a point where it tips into overall negativity
It’s one calamity after another with Hancock - he will resurface again but for now time to go
tbh, my conspiracy theory (and it avoides judgements here, as I really don't want it to tip over into t'other thread!!) is similar to Cummings.
At that point, certain sectors of the population were quite happy sitting at home, not enthused by eating out to help out, going on holiday etc. What you need to do is change the collective psyche a little, and one way of doing that is to loosen those chains where people follow authority fairly literally. Once Cummings tested his eyesight, there was a discernable shift where people weren't as worried about following rules literally, as he hadn't after all.
We're in a similar position now. Hancock can serve a purpose in just loosening those psychological chains ever so slightly, showing that rules are there to be bent and, when they loosen more, it encourages people to take advantage of those loosened rules rather than self-selecting.
In that way... Hancock can provide a service. You *then* move him away, and he either ends up the patsy for errors, or the blame if you need to re-introduce restrictions down the line. Meanwhile, his authority is damaged so he doesn't get any attention paid to him if he butts againstt the government.
The political (small p) move might be to keep him there, given the stage we're at.
(Of course what's more likely is that he's a hopelessly incompetent insincere buffoon who has no grasp of the role he's supposed to play in government, but who doesn't like a conspiracy theory eh)
Agreed, although not sure Johnson needs him for the inquiry. Cummings has already hung him out to dry, he’s got no credibility etc etc and I never thought he’d still be in position by then anyway. Also that inquiry is going to finger pointing all round (everyone covering their own arses). As you say, far more damaging to keep him. The public as a whole are rightly livid
If Johnson doesn’t have a quiet word this weekend (either you resign saying it was necessary ‘after stressful time, let people down, need to spend time with family blah blah’ or I sack you) this will severely damage the government
Hancock has always been a mixture of idiot/toxicity...now he’s just toxic
Add to this their increasing control of the BBC and Chanel 4 so we don't even get the alternative perspectiveThe gas lighting is now endemic.
Nothing to see here. We are delivering on the priorities of the British people, Brexit, Vaccines, world beating yada yada, jibber jabber. Labour would be worse. Look over there - dinghies, illegals, woke, statues being attacked.
So depressing.
Brandon Lewis today on sky.
Trevor Phillips told him about his personal situation where his daughter died and people couldn't be there for her funeral , 6 days after Hancock broke covid rules ... their rules it should be added .
Lewis then says that he too has had friends pass so he understands ...(clearly he doesn't understand as losing a friend is not the same as losing your daughter ) he also failed to offer condolences to Phillips.
He then goes on to explain that Hancock resigned because he was thinking about his family , this being the very family that he wasn't thinking about whilst tongue punching the fart box of his assistant .
What a shameless bunch of cunts, that interview has annoyed me tbh
Brandon Lewis today on sky.
Trevor Phillips told him about his personal situation where his daughter died and people couldn't be there for her funeral , 6 days after Hancock broke covid rules ... their rules it should be added .
Lewis then says that he too has had friends pass so he understands ...(clearly he doesn't understand as losing a friend is not the same as losing your daughter ) he also failed to offer condolences to Phillips.
He then goes on to explain that Hancock resigned because he was thinking about his family , this being the very family that he wasn't thinking about whilst tongue punching the fart box of his assistant .
What a shameless bunch of cunts, that interview has annoyed me tbh
It’s no different to past politicians behaving in oafish ways
Name a single minister who is even vaguely competent at their post
Name a single minister who is even vaguely competent at their post
they're absolutely useless and also held less to account than they've ever been because the PM is a cretin, it's a dangerous combination.
Sunak is competent - it’s also a matter of conjecture - I’d say two were incompetent and one of those has gone
It’s not just that they’re all duds. The biggest dud of them all is the PM.Name a single minister who is even vaguely competent at their post
I hope for your sake the other one you class as incompetent is Williamson
Sunak is competent - it’s also a matter of conjecture - I’d say two were incompetent and one of those has gone
It’s hardly for my sake but for the record yes it is. Then again it’s never been a popular ministerial position. He’s a poor strategist and communicator
The last batch under May contained some who were at least trying to do the job seriously even if I disagreed with their ideology. David Cameron couldn't be accused of half arsing it, the current lazy oaf clearly is all about the title and not the day job.
It’s not just that they’re all duds. The biggest dud of them all is the PM.
you're too clever to believe that. They're a shower of useless twats.
Fuck me you’ve got it bad for Boris if you seriously believe that.Is that a joke? Cameron was the laziest worst PM I’ve ever known
Is that a joke? Cameron was the laziest worst PM I’ve ever known
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