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Grendel

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Biden says a lot of shit. I mean that’s the bigger issue with the amendment. It’s total virtue signalling and completely unenforceable. Who decides what genocide even is and who exactly is committing it? And even then it just makes the U.K. break it’s commitments.

When people go to “re education” camps - China freely admit they do - I don’t think they are studying algebra
 

shmmeee

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When people go to “re education” camps - China freely admit they do - I don’t think they are studying algebra

That’s not genocide though. Genocide is a specific crime against humanity that involves trying to erase a population through deaths and/or suppressing births.

What the Chinese are doing is more like cultural genocide if anything. That’s a line that runs from “free English lessons for immigrants” to what the Chinese are doing.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Basically says " we give more of a shit about money than people".

If you're not a 'big' country than we'll come down on you like a ton of bricks. If you are - don't worry about - it's fine.
 

clint van damme

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Gavin Williamson has been rinsed on the Beeb, Sky and ITV this morning.
He is the epitome of incompetence.

Where did we go wrong that this clown is in charge of our young people's education?
 

chiefdave

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Gavin Williamson has been rinsed on the Beeb, Sky and ITV this morning.
He is the epitome of incompetence.

Where did we go wrong that this clown is in charge of our young people's education?
Did laugh that his suggestion that parents report schools if they aren't happy with the remote learning provision, despite schools being given zero time to prepare, has resulted in Ofsted recieving 260 complaints compared to 13,000 parents contact them to praise schools.

See we're back to claiming schools are safe.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I see Alexander has added more fuel to the independence fire by describing the independence debate as 'irrelevant'.

The clown doesn't understand these kind of jokey throwaway comments actually make a difference. It's just a game to him. I reckon he genuinely doesn't get that independence is an actual probability until the day when he wakes up one morning and realises they've voted to leave. Basically like Cameron treated Brexit.
 

CCFCSteve

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I see Alexander has added more fuel to the independence fire by describing the independence debate as 'irrelevant'.

The clown doesn't understand these kind of jokey throwaway comments actually make a difference. It's just a game to him. I reckon he genuinely doesn't get that independence is an actual probability until the day when he wakes up one morning and realises they've voted to leave. Basically like Cameron treated Brexit.

I think he does take it seriously SBD, he just can’t control his gob ! Johnson needs to be careful what he says, I don’t think keeping the union together is a lost cause (I hope it isn’t) but he’s got to cut out these comments and focus on SNP performance, consider devolving additional powers (I don’t know what specific devolved powers they want) but most importantly how being part of UK has/can benefit Scotland (not just purely economic)

Cameron was a bit different, I think you’re right, he just never saw Brexit coming (probably a bit of arrogance and also being in that SE/Westminster bubble) and his ‘negotiations’ with the EU reflected that. Always said if he’d pushed harder and EU had given a bit (around freedom of movement - a tough give for the EU but only minor movement/perception of movement was needed), Remain wins comfortably
 

Grendel

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I see Alexander has added more fuel to the independence fire by describing the independence debate as 'irrelevant'.

The clown doesn't understand these kind of jokey throwaway comments actually make a difference. It's just a game to him. I reckon he genuinely doesn't get that independence is an actual probability until the day when he wakes up one morning and realises they've voted to leave. Basically like Cameron treated Brexit.

Starmer said he’d refuse a referendum as well

They can’t leave without a Westminster approved election
 

shmmeee

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Wait. Isn’t this going back on the last Tory reorganisation?
 

Grendel

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clint van damme

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Most of whom I assume are in the Labour Party

They've not had chance to show whether they're ministerial calibre or not. The current government have and failed miserably.

Let's be honest, even if the shadow cabinet are just as useless but don't give out multi million and in some cases billion pound contracts to their cronies than that's an improvement.
 

chiefdave

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Saw this on twitter and assume it was an outlier but it seems not and the Conservatives are extending their lead over Labour with recent poll putting them 5 points ahead. Can't get my head around the fact that the government seem to be gaining increased support while Labour are falling back.

 

fernandopartridge

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Saw this on twitter and assume it was an outlier but it seems not and the Conservatives are extending their lead over Labour with recent poll putting them 5 points ahead. Can't get my head around the fact that the government seem to be gaining increased support while Labour are falling back.



Because the vaccination programme is being reported on a par with the number of daily deaths / hundreds of deaths per day has become normalised
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Saw this on twitter and assume it was an outlier but it seems not and the Conservatives are extending their lead over Labour with recent poll putting them 5 points ahead. Can't get my head around the fact that the government seem to be gaining increased support while Labour are falling back.



Vaccine programme going well could be part of it. Stuff is quickly forgotten.

Most annoying thing for me at the moment is that it's not being called the NHS vaccination programme, but the shitfest of the Serco Test and Trace was constantly referred to as NHS Test and Trace.
 

shmmeee

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Saw this on twitter and assume it was an outlier but it seems not and the Conservatives are extending their lead over Labour with recent poll putting them 5 points ahead. Can't get my head around the fact that the government seem to be gaining increased support while Labour are falling back.



Vaccine rollout is a massive success. Most voters have the attention span and memory of a hyperactive goldfish.

Don’t expect to see a dent in Tory support until lockdown is over.
 

Ian1779

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May elections will be interesting, especially in those areas that will feel they been hardest hit by Cov-ID, or most disadvantaged by the response to support them.
 

Grendel

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May elections will be interesting, especially in those areas that will feel they been hardest hit by Cov-ID, or most disadvantaged by the response to support them.

Irrelevant really
 

shmmeee

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Why we aren’t doing everything 100% postal voting I’ve no idea. Seems like a good chance to actually engage people and limit COVID.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I'm considering posting my d(r)aft idea on corporate tax reform on here. It'd definitely meet the 'boring politics' criteria. Just mind end up being a bit long and dry even for this though. :sleep:
 

chiefdave

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Is it really going that badly for Starmer that he's calling Mandelson in?
Starmer calls in Mandelson to inject a dose of New Labour’s ‘winning mentality’
As his honeymoon ends with sniping at his shadow cabinet and questions over his political nous, the party leader is putting his faith in Tony Blair’s chief strategist
 

Grendel

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Lol old Tone will be dug up soon
 

clint van damme

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shmmeee

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I mean, if you aren’t going to talk to the only people still alive who have ever won a GE for Labour, you’re going to be pretty stuck.

I’d bring Hitler in as an advisor if it worked at this point. Tired of fighting with one hand behind our back. As if the Tories would think twice about bringing in advice from effective but cunty people.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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As much as I despise mandelson he is one of the few who could fight the Tories at their own game. Unfortunately that also stretches as far as the corruption etc. He'd basically be doing the role Cummings was I reckon. Difference is when he fucks up he'll be made to resign rather than backed to the hilt.
 

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