Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)
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Crosstabs are here if you want to see who they asked: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/eq0tai40an/Internal_England_COVIDRestrictions_211022_W.pdf
Ian1779
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Of course how silly of me - wishy washy messaging is the way to get elected.
Skybluefaz
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People called the police when KFC ran out of chicken. That's what we're dealing with.I actually put the wrong picture up , this was the one that made me laugh View attachment 22435
Are we a nation of sociopaths
Evo1883
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Ian1779
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There is nothing wrong with the top 2 to be fair as we go into winter.I actually put the wrong picture up , this was the one that made me laugh View attachment 22435
Are we a nation of sociopaths
TomRad85
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The top 2 are completely fine. In fact I wish people would wear masks on the tube forever, disgusting place. The rest can go fuck themselves though.
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fernandopartridge
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Message harder? Tell me what message is being sent here
shmmeee
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Have a read of this: Opinion | David Shor Is Telling Democrats What They Don’t Want to Hear
Voters don’t vote on specifics, they don’t vote for policy (they don’t vote for anything three years from an election!), they vote on feel and yes that’s wishy washy.
Genuinely what do you want? Because it seems an awful lot like “do what Corbyn did” and we saw how that worked out.
Look I’d love it if we lived in a country where the majority were both politically engaged and very left wing and I could just have a party just for me that said everything I liked. But that’s not reality.
shmmeee
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That’s not what the poll you posted says? There was no majority support for limiting events or movement.
shmmeee
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“We won’t just promise spending Willy nilly” basically.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Too long-winded and wordy
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I don't think that's true. They're just told it will be rubbish and some lazy scumbag will be given all their money to buy drugs. Support for the NHS is very strong. Support for pensions is strong. Income support for those on low wages has strong support. These are left-wing principles. Right-wing would say if you get sick and you don't have enough money to pay for treatment tough. If you get old and haven't earned enough money to survive tough. If you don't have enough money to support your kids because you can't work too many hours because you need to take care of kids tough - you shouldn't have had kids.
What they're really fed up of is seeing others have so much more than them. People who have private jets and yachts while they're just trying to keep a roof over their head. But they're told from a young age the only way around that is to try and become like them. The idea of having a fairer and more equitable distribution of what is available isn't even suggested because the people in charge are the ones that have it all and don't want to share it.
Most people would be content with a roof over their heads, food on their table, able to pay the bills and the people they care about to be safe, well and happy. Look at the likes of Phillip Green - got more money than he could hope to spend in a lifetime yet he's a miserable bastard because all he cares about is monetary value.
fernandopartridge
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Retaining an already costed provision for the very poorest is hardly spending "willy nilly". What on earth is the party about?
Grendel
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a race to the bottom - not for me thanks
skybluetony176
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skybluetony176
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Hurrah! Knew you would respond with some cliched right-wing economic soundbite.
It's not a race to the bottom - it's a journey to the middle where the bottom is a lot higher up than it is now.
Grendel
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Well gear campaigning - Tories will be destroyed and a Labour utopia for eternity beckons
skybluetony176
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So. Just to be clear. We have labour shortages causing shelves to empty in shops, panic buying, industries slowing to a crawl because they can’t get materials, we’re pumping untreated sewage into the rivers and seas, industries lost access to markets, a government who’s willingness to bend over and take one from former colonies in trade negotiations for a failed ideology knows no bounds, a public who’s been so brainwashed to have enough of experts we have a stalled vaccine rollout meaning we once again have the worst infection rate and death rates in Europe etc etc etc. All championed by someone apparently worried about a race to the bottom.
David O'Day
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If it's cold then hell yes
Quite.
You can't say you don't want a race to the bottom yet give your full support to this government. Pick one.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Well done Kier.....some positive news at last.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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I don't follow PMQs or any of the other day to day shite that happens in the commons tbf.....but i'm glad to hear cheese toasties are being debated....
the unnecessary "pimping" & "hacking"of the humble toasty has been going unchallended for far too long.......this could re-engage the disenfranchised.
the unnecessary "pimping" & "hacking"of the humble toasty has been going unchallended for far too long.......this could re-engage the disenfranchised.
chiefdave
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Budget was a bit of a non-event. Followed the template, lots of bluster, re-annoucements and shifting targets. Oddly given what's happening at the moment not one mention of climate.
Credit where its due. Milliband and Reeves have both done a good job today. Although not sure things being noticeably better when Starmer is absent is great for. Labour
Credit where its due. Milliband and Reeves have both done a good job today. Although not sure things being noticeably better when Starmer is absent is great for. Labour