Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Of course how silly of me - wishy washy messaging is the way to get elected.
Of course how silly of me - wishy washy messaging is the way to get elected.What reassurance? “Oh don’t worry guys in three years we might fix this, but probably not because we don’t care about getting elected.”. Much reassuring.
I've seen that , I still don't believe it .. doesnt reflect on public behaviour whatsoeverCrosstabs are here if you want to see who they asked: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/eq0tai40an/Internal_England_COVIDRestrictions_211022_W.pdf
People called the police when KFC ran out of chicken. That's what we're dealing with.I actually put the wrong picture up , this was the one that made me laugh View attachment 22435
Are we a nation of sociopaths
People called the police when KFC ran out of chicken. That's what we're dealing with.
There is nothing wrong with the top 2 to be fair as we go into winter.I actually put the wrong picture up , this was the one that made me laugh View attachment 22435
Are we a nation of sociopaths
The top 2 are completely fine. In fact I wish people would wear masks on the tube forever, disgusting place. The rest can go fuck themselves though.There is nothing wrong with the top 2 to be fair as we go into winter.
Yet again you’re missing the point. People don’t vote Labour because they think we’re too soft so we have to message harder. The Tories have the opposite issue.
This was what did Corbyn. Individual policy polling over party image polling.
Of course how silly of me - wishy washy messaging is the way to get elected.
Do you want to stay in forever
British public
"Yes"
Message harder? Tell me what message is being sent here
Looks pretty good to me. Focuses on voters main concerns over Labour (tax and spend). Not sure what more you want.
but most people don’t want your vision - they don’t want it
Retaining an already costed provision for the very poorest is hardly spending "willy nilly". What on earth is the party about?“We won’t just promise spending Willy nilly” basically.
I don't think that's true. They're just told it will be rubbish and some lazy scumbag will be given all their money to buy drugs. Support for the NHS is very strong. Support for pensions is strong. Income support for those on low wages has strong support. These are left-wing principles. Right-wing would say if you get sick and you don't have enough money to pay for treatment tough. If you get old and haven't earned enough money to survive tough. If you don't have enough money to support your kids because you can't work too many hours because you need to take care of kids tough - you shouldn't have had kids.
What they're really fed up of is seeing others have so much more than them. People who have private jets and yachts while they're just trying to keep a roof over their head. But they're told from a young age the only way around that is to try and become like them. The idea of having a fairer and more equitable distribution of what is available isn't even suggested because the people in charge are the ones that have it all and don't want to share it.
Most people would be content with a roof over their heads, food on their table, able to pay the bills and the people they care about to be safe, well and happy. Look at the likes of Phillip Green - got more money than he could hope to spend in a lifetime yet he's a miserable bastard because all he cares about is monetary value.
Hurrah! Knew you would respond with some cliched right-wing economic soundbite.a race to the bottom - not for me thanks
Hurrah! Knew you would respond with some cliched right-wing economic soundbite.
It's not a race to the bottom - it's a journey to the middle where the bottom is a lot higher up than it is now.
Do you want to stay in forever
British public
"Yes"
So. Just to be clear. We have labour shortages causing shelves to empty in shops, panic buying, industries slowing to a crawl because they can’t get materials, we’re pumping untreated sewage into the rivers and seas, industries lost access to markets, a government who’s willingness to bend over and take one from former colonies in trade negotiations for a failed ideology knows no bounds, a public who’s been so brainwashed to have enough of experts we have a stalled vaccine rollout meaning we once again have the worst infection rate and death rates in Europe etc etc etc. All championed by someone apparently worried about a race to the bottom.
Not great to see so many MPs using the murder of a colleague as an excuse not to be answerable to the electorate. Seen numerous examples of people being blocked by their MP for politely asking why they voted the way they did.What a pathetic little weasel.
Budget was a bit of a non-event. Followed the template, lots of bluster, re-annoucements and shifting targets. Oddly given what's happening at the moment not one mention of climate.
Credit where its due. Milliband and Reeves have both done a good job today. Although not sure things being noticeably better when Starmer is absent is great for. Labour
Bring back Red Ed?
(I always liked him TBF)
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