I've already said they don't..People's problems with labour are not about policies ...labour and it's followers are about as likeable as a fart in a bottle of water
We probably agree on an awful lot, I’m just having a post work rant at the world because the average British voter makes less sense to me than the average woman and you’re the idiot who keeps replying
And again whats likable about the tories?
Its ok saying why you don't like Labour but that doesn't explain why people turn to the tories.
There are some of the most repugnant fuckers you could ever come across in the tories.
I keep replying because you've been talking down to me and I don't appreciate it if I'm being honest
Likewise , I hold my tongue for the very same reason , respectSorry it’s genuinely not personal, and I don’t mean to talk down to you, I respect you a lot. You just became the avatar for all I don’t get that frustrates me about the political dialogue here. As I say it’s always Labour having to be perfect and never the other way.
I think we are definitely going to need a Coventry local election thread.
Imagine the fun
To be honest, I don't know about others, but I have minimal interest in it.
To be honest if that’s where we are at in politics we may as well just move straight to a China style one-party state. It’s about making peoples lives better, not the X Factor.I've already said they don't..People's problems with labour are not about policies ...labour and it's followers are about as likeable as a fart in a bottle of water
If people aren't voting for their policies , then you have to look at why they aren't voting for you and that's the MPs , and arguably the supporters too .To be honest if that’s where we are at in politics we may as well just move straight to a China style one-party state. It’s about making peoples lives better, not the X Factor.
How do the tories appeal to the working class?
Nationalism, populism, jingoism
All things a big chunk of the working class seem to value over improving public services and quality of life.
Jingoism, I feel not. Nationalism, populism, yes but probably no more in this than Labour's use of the same. Britain has always been a small c-conservative nation of people, equally at home with individualistic as well as collective policies that speak to stability, family, prosperity. The nearest Labour came to this was the Blair governments.
Wouldn't it be more constructive to ask why people have turned away from Labour rather than simply view Labour as the victim of a population's ignorance and intelligence?
Definitely jingoism too...
Definition of jingoism
: extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy
I think most folks think of Jingoism in particular terms, but if this is your best response then I think you have made my case.
And what particular terms are they?
I believe most people view jingo-ism as a belligerent and aggressive form of nationalism, you know, a bit like a Labour government joining in a certain shock and awe campaign, or Thatcher standing on the steps of No 10 saying 'Rejoice'. Or maybe it's victimised Labour supporters thinking that they are holders of a truth that they must take to an ignorant and stupid population.
Just pathetic.
The question was:
'how do the tories appeal to the working class?'
I answered.
You then said it would be good to ask why people are turning away from Labour which is a perfectly valid question, but not the one I was answering.
just don't think you know what jingoism means. Is breaking international law not belligerent enough for you?
Edit: you've deleted your post
I really cannot be bothered to engage in a discussion about the definition of jingoism and its use by the parties when it was not the central point chap.
You tire me. Tell you what, you post a response to show that you've had the last say and so have successfully educated the masses.
Seems like Hartlepool will also go Tory just because, well, why not. Send a whole region to the doldrums for decades and get rewarded because some guy in a clown costume told some jokes while hiding in a fridge.
I think there is something about deporting immigrants and that which tickles their particular fancy.Seems like Hartlepool will also go Tory just because, well, why not. Send a whole region to the doldrums for decades and get rewarded because some guy in a clown costume told some jokes while hiding in a fridge.
City drivers 'should think twice' before buying SUVs
The boss of the RAC Foundation says drivers in urban areas should consider which car is most appropriate.www.bbc.co.uk
Here here! Although my headline would be far more scathing of this particular breed of pricks.....
I just don't like them. Guess it means the style of cars I do like will be cheaper(!)Though not necessarily the large vehicles this is referring to the majority of cars are likely to be an SUV in 10 years time
I just don't like them. Guess it means the style of cars I do like will be cheaper(!)
Hey now! Labour are just as bad because something something Toby Blair and despite all the corruption death and poverty the Tories are great and just love this country. And I know exactly what I voted for DONT YOU DARE CALL ME STUPID AND NO I CAN’T JUSTIFY MY VOTING DECISIONS STOP ASKING ME!!!!1!1!1!
They were only 10% of the market a few years ago and now are 40% - lifestyle wise they are a much better family option - I’m waiting for my diesel guzzler to arrive soon.
Yeah I loved my SUV. Great for a family. Seems a bit weird to go on about this when all petrol only cars will be banned soon. I’d rather campaigners focused on important stuff like improving housing stock and decarbonising industry, transport has a clear plan and route to net zero.
Yeah I loved my SUV. Great for a family. Seems a bit weird to go on about this when all petrol only cars will be banned soon. I’d rather campaigners focused on important stuff like improving housing stock and decarbonising industry, transport has a clear plan and route to net zero.
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