David O'Day
Well-Known Member
the majority of people who saw labour as economically responsible, it's why labour now poll as better on the economy than the tories
the majority of people who saw labour as economically responsible, it's why labour now poll as better on the economy than the toriesWho is this appealing to?
Labour urges spending watchdog to assess impact of chancellor’s £21bn package
Shadow Treasury secretary asks Office for Budget Responsibility to examine Rishi Sunak’s emergency cost of living measureswww.theguardian.com
Whether that is true or not… doesn’t detract from the fact in this context and situation it’s a fucking stupid thing to say out loud.the majority of people who saw labour as economically responsible, it's why labour now poll as better on the economy than the tories
no it's really not, most do not give a fuck and to others it shows fiscal responsibilityWhether that is true or not… doesn’t detract from the fact in this context and situation it’s a fucking stupid thing to say out loud.
the majority of people who saw labour as economically responsible, it's why labour now poll as better on the economy than the tories
I’ve read the article - and she puts far more emphasis on ‘making sure it can be paid for’ than the desperate need for it in the first place.no it's really not, most do not give a fuck and to others it shows fiscal responsibility
also fp in his rush to hate on labour has only read the headline
labour still support the measures, they are just saying as it was a budget sized package the obr should asses the effects like it would a budget
no it's really not, most do not give a fuck and to others it shows fiscal responsibility
also fp in his rush to hate on labour has only read the headline
labour still support the measures, they are just saying as it was a budget sized package the obr should asses the effects like it would a budget
I've read the story you clown
I’ve read the article - and she puts far more emphasis on ‘making sure it can be paid for’ than the desperate need for it in the first place.
If Labour think this is an election winning strategy then they are even more stupid than I thought possible.
Offer some fucking hope - not shitty middle management.
I did you did fucking idiot, you should try and read the story first and not the headline
It still clearly says Labour supports the measures but thinks due to the size of the package the OBR should look at measures.
It's right there in the story but in your rather sad attempts to attack anything that might have something to to do with Rachel Reeves you didn't read the story and made yourself look a c**t.
You clown
In my defence I followed the link direct from her Twitter. These are her words still.You really haven't read the article if you think "she"
It's Pat McFadden who is the one quoted in the article.
It also clearly states they support the measures
Who is it appealing to?
In my defence I followed the link direct from her Twitter. These are her words still.
No not offence - any person with the slightest bit of political acumen would have said in the second sentence of that tweet ‘Labour will do even more to support you in your times of struggle’and you really have to be looking for offence there
Who is it appealing to?
No not offence - any person with the slightest bit of political acumen would have said in the second sentence of that tweet ‘Labour will do even more to support you in your times of struggle’
It’s utterly clueless dirge.
Thats bollocks - it’s not being spun on here like at all, it’s the complete opposite because Labour should be suggesting MORE.So clueless that under Reeves Labour has gone from being seen as weak and wasteful on the economy to stronger than the tories.
It's perfectly reasonable to have an economic assessment of big ticket economic packages.
No one wants to stop the measures but they could be inflationary so why shouldn't the OBR be asked to look at what those effects maybe so we have some advanced warning. This is what happens happens with budgets and Autumn statements. This is what the OBR is designed for so why not use it. The story is being spun on here to read "Labour want to get rid of the measures"
Sorry but most people don't care or would even see the story at all.
The economy is now just what? the deficit?
The economy is now just what? the deficit?
Did Labour do the same with the Ukraine war spend or does that not count because it plays well in the focus groups?No, I was quite clearly talking about the publics views on which party is better on the economy. This is shown by the last few months of polling.
This is something a) the tories can no longer attack labour on b) something the public do take into account when voting.
In the end all what has happened is Labour have asked the OBR to look at the inflationary effects of a big ticket economic package. A package it says it supports
Thats bollocks - it’s not being spun on here like at all, it’s the complete opposite because Labour should be suggesting MORE.
Your big argument is it looks good in a survey… wow.
They’re going big on chaneling their inner 2010-15… sure that will play out well.
Did Labour do the same with the Ukraine war spend or does that not count because it plays well in the focus groups?
The hard man IRA supporter has emerged from under the bed.
the people who used to think labour was wasteful economically that's all.
most people either will never know about or simply don't care
you are acting like the are attacking the measures and don't support them
but in the end most don't really care
You think that ‘trust’ will hold? Labour is only holding onto polling leads because the Tory vote had gone into hiding until Johnson goes.No that is how it is being spun on here.
No my big argument is that for once the public actually trust Labour on the economy.
I'm sure chaneling our inner 2019 would be great - that was a Tory party that could attack labour which "how are you going to pay for that?"
So thanks for proving my point
Yeah, atm why distract with alternative policy? Now *that* would be crazy just atm. Atm the selling point is 'we're not nutters'!This is correct, however, I can’t help but feel they’re picking the wrong battle (again).
People also want ideas and how life would be better under Labour but guessing they’re holding off until nearer election, which is fair enough, especially when the government is potentially unravelling
You think that ‘trust’ will hold? Labour is only holding onto polling leads because the Tory vote had gone into hiding until Johnson goes.
Once he’s despatched and he’s taken all the blame with him a new leader will reap the benefits.
In the meantime Labour are essentially disenfranchising all the people that they need votes from to chase a tiny margin of people that never will back them once the Tory PR machine gets going.
Or worse - simply driving the poor away from the ballot box with their ambivalent response to this cost of living crisis.
As I said - they offer shitty middle management when what people need is Hope.
I did you did fucking idiot, you should try and read the story first and not the headline
It still clearly says Labour supports the measures but thinks due to the size of the package the OBR should look at measures.
It's right there in the story but in your rather sad attempts to attack anything that might have something to to do with Rachel Reeves you didn't read the story and made yourself look a c**t.
You clown
You think that ‘trust’ will hold? Labour is only holding onto polling leads because the Tory vote had gone into hiding until Johnson goes.
Once he’s despatched and he’s taken all the blame with him a new leader will reap the benefits.
In the meantime Labour are essentially disenfranchising all the people that they need votes from to chase a tiny margin of people that never will back them once the Tory PR machine gets going.
Or worse - simply driving the poor away from the ballot box with their ambivalent response to this cost of living crisis.
As I said - they offer shitty middle management when what people need is Hope.
Oh and grenners my emails tell me you are quoting my posts again.
You are blocked as I don't speak to racists
Grenners, mate I'm really not interested in speaking to you and the weird lies and ramblings you spout and I have you on ignore.
I promised Mark we wouldn't derail every thread with nonsense.
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