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David O'Day

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He's going to lose the upcoming leadership challenge and then if he doesn't go he will end up being sacked by the queen
 

Grendel

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I used the dictionary which says a criminal is someone who's committed a crime. Johnson has end of discussion

a fixed penalty notice isn’t a crime - genuinely - you aren’t aware of this? Really?
 
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I suppose the good news is he could actually split the Conservative Party if he keeps on with this.
 

PVA

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I did ask for the 5 sex offenders names and criminal convictions and confirmation they are on the sex offenders list

You then said it’s easier to name tories who aren’t sex offenders than those who are

I think we deserve the names of the convicted 5 now yes?

The information is all out there, it's not a secret (apart from one unnamed Tory being investigated for rape).

I don't know what you're trying to do, but defending accused sex offenders is not a good look.
 

skybluetony176

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The information is all out there, it's not a secret (apart from one unnamed Tory being investigated for rape).

I don't know what you're trying to do, but defending accused sex offenders is not a good look.
He’s having a bad day. It’s all over for his man.
 
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Grendel

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The information is all out there, it's not a secret (apart from one unnamed Tory being investigated for rape).

I don't know what you're trying to do, but defending accused sex offenders is not a good look.

You said 5 sex offences not accused but actual offences

So is it 5 offences convicted or are you retracting from that and again I don’t have the names - who are they?

I need as a Tory supporter to know these people who’ve been charged and found guilty and are sex offenders

is that unreasonable?
 

PVA

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You said 5 sex offences not accused but actual offences

So is it 5 offences convicted or are you retracting from that and again I don’t have the names - who are they?

I need as a Tory supporter to know these people who’ve been charged and found guilty and are sex offenders

is that unreasonable?

So Chris Pincher's behaviour is perfectly acceptable because he hasn't been placed on the sex offenders list?

Wow.

This is low, even for you.
 

David O'Day

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So Chris Pincher's behaviour is perfectly acceptable because he hasn't been placed on the sex offenders list?

Wow.

This is low, even for you.

Just block him if he's coming out with sick weird shit like that. Place is much nicer when you can't see his drivel.
 

Grendel

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So Chris Pincher's behaviour is perfectly acceptable because he hasn't been placed on the sex offenders list?

Wow.

This is low, even for you.

with respect I’ve asked the names - you’ve just made it up - you should get a job in Rachel Reeves office

You keep saying a new low but perhaps not make up claims that most tories are sex offenders and then it’s 5 and then you can’t name them as you’ve just lied?

Why lie? That’s something Johnson would do isn’t it - “there are 5 convicted sex offenders on the other side of the house and it’s a new low they defend them”

But there aren’t and you’ve well - made it up Boris style
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.

There's much he got wrong during his tenure, but the response to the pandemic wasn't one of them (imo)
It was a terrible response.

We got a heads up over it. As an island we had better chance to prepare and reduce the number of infections for a while to allow the NHS to prepare. We didn't do that. We kept everything open because Johnson didn't believe it was worthwhile and we could make huge economic gains while others shut down. This meant we weren't prepared and didn't have the facilities and equipment needed to treat people and people that died needlessly.

He also failed to protect the most vulnerable by shoving people back in care homes without testing. God knows how many thousands died because of that.

Then reducing measures despite all the science telling him it was a terrible idea as infections and deaths would rise, but he ignored the science because a few impatient people and mentalists in his party got a bit shouty.

We wasted billions on contracts he gave to mates rather than competent established providers. He wasted an unbelievable amount on a Track and Trace system that failed to work when an off the shelf one was available.

If you don't think that's a monumental series of fuck ups and corruption at the expense of people's lives then I'd hate to see what your definition is.

Vaccine was done well, but you had this to say:
The same department that told us phalidamide was safe, is now telling us the covid vaccine is safe.
If that's not cause for caution, I dont know what is. I'm not against having it, and I may have to if I want to go abroad again, but I'm sure not going to be in the first wave of guinea pigs queuing up for it.
I have an aging family member who's had a liver transplant who obviously wants it asap, and I totally get that, as she's very vulnerable, so I'll just not visit her for a while.
And if those who dont want it yet have to use a mask for the foreseeable then so be it.
The only relevant statistic, is how many doses of booster vaccine did Bojo pre-order?
And how much money has it cost the tax payer? And how much profit has the manufacturer made?
So it seems like you've changed your tune.

And this is just the pandemic.

There isn't the bandwidth available to go into the rest of his lies and incompetence.
 

Grendel

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I’m slightly bored now I’ll revisit tomorrow
 

PVA

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with respect I’ve asked the names - you’ve just made it up - you should get a job in Rachel Reeves office

You keep saying a new low but perhaps not make up claims that most tories are sex offenders and then it’s 5 and then you can’t name them as you’ve just lied?

Why lie? That’s something Johnson would do isn’t it - “there are 5 convicted sex offenders on the other side of the house and it’s a new low they defend them”

But there aren’t and you’ve well - made it up Boris style

I haven't made it up. All the information is out there. If you choose to ignore it that's on you.

I don't know why I'm engaging with someone who thinks sexual misconduct is OK.
 

shmmeee

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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Boris will be gone by next Tuesday at the latest.
 

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