David O'Day
Well-Known Member
It also clearly states nothing it reported on had any effect on any election
Selective usage of it's finding is pretty fucking ricjh
Selective usage of it's finding is pretty fucking ricjh
Also have to love the blind hatred of all things Conservative that you're willing to throw away principals that some of you spend 90% of your time on here arguing about daily, before you've even seen a manifesto to know who stands for what. I think some of you would vote Hitler party if there was a chance he could take a seat away.
Pathetic.
Ironic from you considering the previous post does exactly that.It also clearly states nothing it reported on had any effect on any election
Selective usage of it's finding is pretty fucking ricjh
Ironic from you considering the previous post does exactly that.
It also clearly states nothing it reported on had any effect on any election
That's not really relevant, people who were found not to have support the LOTO are now saying if you don't support starmer you're enabling the tories, that's a bit rich.
And despite that I would support starmer if I thought he had anything to offer, which I don't.
As a serious question, what do you think makes people not want Conservative governments?
You implied both sides were just as culpable, so show me in the report where systemic racist abuse and harassment suffered by non-white or non-male Labour MP’s and staff was on ‘both’ sides.no it doesn't, stop talking bollocks
You implied both sides were just as culpable, so show me in the report where systemic racist abuse and harassment suffered by non-white or non-male Labour MP’s was on ‘both’ sides.
You are talking out of your arse.
Mark Pawsey has some rather dubious views I couldn't support regardless of who was leader.Also have to love the blind hatred of all things Conservative that you're willing to throw away principals that some of you spend 90% of your time on here arguing about daily, before you've even seen a manifesto to know who stands for what. I think some of you would vote Hitler party if there was a chance he could take a seat away.
Pathetic.
Ok, as you've asked directly I'll give you my honest opinion for once rather than my usual pot stirring
Mainly I think it's the expectation that they will receive a better funded public sector (which is a huge part of the electorate) but not understanding that there is one pot of money and the services it can provide depend on the size of the pot, without realising the only way that pot grows is if they pay into it.
Secondly. there is also a huge myth that despite no Govt ever saying that they want to abolish the NHS, many have been brainwashed into believing it. There is a certain elitism to a lot of the MP's that doesn't help them either despite whether they are any good or not, lots of the GP simply can't get past the fact they can't relate to people like Rees-Mogg for example. I actually like him, but I can understand why he hasn't gone for leader as there is no way he could win a GE. Finally I think a bit of jealousy and envy of the 'haves' and 'have nots'.
If I was being mischievous, I'd also guess that the average IQ of a Conservative voter versus other parties (not on here before anyone gets into a dick waving contest) is a few points higher.
It's fair to say there is an expectation from many of services without cost, but that's not necessarily from Labour voters. That said, an understanding of what needs to be done may swing some to Labour... and said situation possibly countermands his last pointCounter point-most of us are willing to pay a bit more to have stronger public services.
Not so sure it’s his local reputation that holds him there. I’m yet to meet someone from Rugby who doesn’t think he’s a twat. He’s not all bad, he supported the early day motions on football governance that used us as an example of change needed, he’s also made the right noises regarding Brandon stadium supporting local efforts to see a change of ownership that sees motorsport return to the site rather than developed for housing.It was Rugby before then, Bill Price was MP (Labour!!) It was adding Kenilworth turned it Tory as they were more affluent and, well, Tories.
It's not a safe Tory seat, it is an MP with a local reputation that holds him there.
He does work reasonably hard for his local community - he's the only MP who could be arsed to attend the Rugby stop off on a series of events I ran.Not so sure it’s his local reputation that holds him there. I’m yet to meet someone from Rugby who doesn’t think he’s a twat. He’s not all bad, he supported the early day motions on football governance that used us as an example of change needed, he’s also made the right noises regarding Brandon stadium supporting local efforts to see a change of ownership that sees motorsport return to the site rather than developed for housing.
I'd hope you wouldn't need it for public sector workers!Purely to satisfy my curiosity, does anyone have any stats to hand of voting % by party at the last few elections of private sector workers versus public sector workers and those who don't work at all?
I'd hope you wouldn't need it for public sector workers!
Although there was a lad at our workplace, had a disability that needed support and meant he needed to live at home, worked in the public sector partly as a social service to him, his Mum was a single Mum who was a teacher...
He voted Conservative.
Even you'd surely concede that on a self interest level, that was the turkey voting for Christmas!
I know 3 teachers and all are die hard Tory voters always have been and all work in the public sector
Ok, as you've asked directly I'll give you my honest opinion for once rather than my usual pot stirring
Mainly I think it's the expectation that they will receive a better funded public sector (which is a huge part of the electorate) but not understanding that there is one pot of money and the services it can provide depend on the size of the pot, without realising the only way that pot grows is if they pay into it.
Secondly. there is also a huge myth that despite no Govt ever saying that they want to abolish the NHS, many have been brainwashed into believing it. There is a certain elitism to a lot of the MP's that doesn't help them either despite whether they are any good or not, lots of the GP simply can't get past the fact they can't relate to people like Rees-Mogg for example. I actually like him, but I can understand why he hasn't gone for leader as there is no way he could win a GE. Finally I think a bit of jealousy and envy of the 'haves' and 'have nots'.
If I was being mischievous, I'd also guess that the average IQ of a Conservative voter versus other parties (not on here before anyone gets into a dick waving contest) is a few points higher.
Ok, as you've asked directly I'll give you my honest opinion for once rather than my usual pot stirring
Mainly I think it's the expectation that they will receive a better funded public sector (which is a huge part of the electorate) but not understanding that there is one pot of money and the services it can provide depend on the size of the pot, without realising the only way that pot grows is if they pay into it.
Secondly. there is also a huge myth that despite no Govt ever saying that they want to abolish the NHS, many have been brainwashed into believing it. There is a certain elitism to a lot of the MP's that doesn't help them either despite whether they are any good or not, lots of the GP simply can't get past the fact they can't relate to people like Rees-Mogg for example. I actually like him, but I can understand why he hasn't gone for leader as there is no way he could win a GE. Finally I think a bit of jealousy and envy of the 'haves' and 'have nots'.
If I was being mischievous, I'd also guess that the average IQ of a Conservative voter versus other parties (not on here before anyone gets into a dick waving contest) is a few points higher.
I know 3 teachers and all are die hard Tory voters always have been and all work in the public sector
He's just a pointless waste of space who in future generations will be looked back on as a WTF moment in British history.What I don't understand in the arguments that come from Johnson is that it's praiseworthy to put back some of the money that years of cuts took away. To restore some of the police that left, to hire some of the nurses that left etc.
I guess when you've been in power for so long it's easy to forget who took these things away in the first place.
He's just a pointless waste of space who in future generations will be looked back on as a WTF moment in British history.
If I was being mischievous, I'd also guess that the average IQ of a Conservative voter versus other parties (not on here before anyone gets into a dick waving contest) is a few points higher.
Was there a US study that linked being right wing with being less intelligent?Wow
So the clever people vote for the party most likely to fuck the country up.
Doesn't sound very... Clever.
The only thing an IQ test is useful for is testing your ability to do an IQ test, which you can be tutored in.Wow
So the clever people vote for the party most likely to fuck the country up.
Doesn't sound very... Clever.
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