Sick Boy
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The arseholes have trashed the country - even the Italian economy outperforms it these days ffs.
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clint van damme
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O'Mara gets 4 years, good.
Let's hope the PPE fraudsters are convicted and get sentences that reflect The amounts of public money they stole.
Let's hope the PPE fraudsters are convicted and get sentences that reflect The amounts of public money they stole.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Unless one of them goes turncoat and criticises the Tories in which case the full weight of the law will be brought down upon them.
Skybluefaz
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Skybluefaz
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They've formed a band.
David O'Day
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no crayon left uneaten
shmmeee
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I do like this idea that there are some people who actually don’t want the economy to grow. And in double irony they tend to be the ones pushing policies that would actually grow it.
clint van damme
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clint van damme
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They are beyond useless.
www.google.com
UK pays EU £2.3bn after losing trade dispute
The UK has paid the EU £2.3bn in relation to a disagreement over the importation of Chinese textiles and footwear between 2011 and 2017 - when the UK was still part of the European Union.
Skybluefaz
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They just can't help themselves.
clint van damme
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I actually have a bit of a tin foil hat theory.
They know they're going to lose the next election, but apparently what they fear most is a hung parliament because the libs would insist on PR as part of any deal and that would fuck them over massively in the long term.
So I'm not saying there's a plan to gey mullered but I wouldn't be surprised if there are grandees in the party who would normally squash this sort of carry on but are just letting it slide.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Have the constituency boundary changes already been approved for the next GE?
clint van damme
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I don't think they've been decided yet, though there's plenty of time to rubber stamp them before the next GE
shmmeee
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You credit them with far too much political nous, forward thinking and cooperation.
David O'Day
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both parties are selecting based on current boundaries it seems
skybluetony176
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So we narrowly avoided recession then.
Funny thing is that yesterday at a parliamentary select committee meeting the Governor of the Bank of England was being grilled and the Tory MP on that committee was framing their questions in a manner that the current economic is all the fault of the BOE. Wake up this morning and Hunt is all over the TV claiming credit for the current economic climate. A quarter of stagnation is now a success story for the UK.
Funny thing is that yesterday at a parliamentary select committee meeting the Governor of the Bank of England was being grilled and the Tory MP on that committee was framing their questions in a manner that the current economic is all the fault of the BOE. Wake up this morning and Hunt is all over the TV claiming credit for the current economic climate. A quarter of stagnation is now a success story for the UK.
BoE were late dealing with inflation, as all central banks were and have semi admitted it (nobody foresaw the war though to be fair). Keeping rates around zero/one and carrying on printing money well into last year was a massive error
Hunt/sunak did take action to clear up Truss’ mess, which has no doubt helped with inflation and settle things down. Challenge for them is what next…without wanting to sound like truss’ lot (god forbid !)…where’s the growth plan
skybluetony176
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Problem is the BOE like all central banks is a reactionary organisation. It’s not as simple as saying that they were late. Something happens and they then react. They’re also constrained by political pressure, they’re not truly independent and they were very definitely under political pressure to keep interest rates low as it was the only driver of investment. The country couldn’t afford a crash in the housing market especially.
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Yeah, worth noting that growth can also be large public spending projects - doesn't have to be just cutting taxes for the sake of it!
Also got to find a way of encouraging investment and increasing productivity
They weren’t really constrained during 2022 though. They totally misjudged inflation and then a bad situation was made a lot worse by the war. BOE Chief economist warned them in summer 2021
Bank of England's Andy Haldane voices 4% inflation fear - BBC News
The Bank of England's departing chief economist warns that the risk of high inflation is "rising fast".
www.bbc.com
clint van damme
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They weren’t really constrained during 2022 though. They totally misjudged inflation and then a bad situation was made a lot worse by the war. BOE Chief economist warned them in summer 2021
Bank of England's Andy Haldane voices 4% inflation fear - BBC News
The Bank of England's departing chief economist warns that the risk of high inflation is "rising fast".
The only inflation he needs to worry about is the right side of his head the lop sided c**t
clint van damme
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Well, well, well
www.google.com
Tories and Labour ‘meet for secret talks on Brexit failures’
Leading Brexiteer Michael Gove ‘honest’ about UK’s struggle outside the EU in confidential meeting
www.google.com
Sick Boy
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So it hasn't been the fault of various groups of people wanting to put the country down then?Well, well, well
Tories and Labour ‘meet for secret talks on Brexit failures’
Leading Brexiteer Michael Gove ‘honest’ about UK’s struggle outside the EU in confidential meeting
clint van damme
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I bet some tory buffoon tried to trot out that line.
Time for them to get on with delivering what was promised.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Both parties know it but for differing reasons neither can come out and say it. The Tories can’t come out and admit that their pet project is a disaster and Labour have to keep quiet on it this side of the next election. Again, the best thing for the country would be a GE and change of management.
skybluetony176
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Still hanging onto the unicorn though “brexit would eventually prove to be the right decision”.Well, well, well
Tories and Labour ‘meet for secret talks on Brexit failures’
Leading Brexiteer Michael Gove ‘honest’ about UK’s struggle outside the EU in confidential meeting
clint van damme
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In time they might be proven correct, I have my doubts, but they didn't say that at the time.
They should have been delivering from day one, that's what was promised.
If they can't deliver, they should do as Brighton says and call a GE.
skybluetony176
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According to the Mail today being against this is left wing snobbery
clint van damme
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There's pictures of some of their members wearing white supremacist and nazi gear.
No surprise Anderson is mates with them.
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The problem is in the time frames they say Brexit will prove to be the right decision, it'll be well-nigh impossible to prove if it was Brexit or not that made it so.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep as well as being complete tosh