Sky Blue Pete
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Man of the people why should he follow the rules no other dicker did
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Man of the people why should he follow the rules no other dicker did
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Is that really all you think this is about? You see no problem with a Prime Minister repeatedly lying to Parliament?
skybluetony176
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You’re forgetting one thing. The Boris bridgeScotland doesn’t have a land border with the EU and as you know, NI are a special case due to GFA. The reason why it’s such a great deal for NI is they have access to single market without having to pay into the pot, without FOM requirement and have a break on new EU rules
I might be wrong but I presume Sunak can’t labour these points in public as it might piss off some EU members. Basically NIs position is unique and better than other EU members
If EU offered that deal to the U.K. I’d imagine we’d snap their hands off (ERG nutters/DUP aside)
fernandopartridge
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What are you talking about?
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Didn't think it was complicated to be honest
Ian1779
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He’s got a point though - classic dead cat syndrome. Much easier to howl about the outrage of Sue Gray’s appointment and fill column inches about a ‘stitch up’ than have to respond to questions about how the country is going down the toilet.
I’ll give you another example of last weeks teacher strike - the government have realised that there is popular support for the strikes, so the media that is supportive of them simply acted like it didn’t happen.
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It's not a question of one or the other. A Prime Minister lying to Parliament is a bit of a problem in a democracy. And that doesn't mean that the Government's abject failure to deal with the economic crisis isn't important.
Also trying to dismiss Johnson's behaviour as him just being a bit of a laugh is insulting to the people who obeyed the rules and those who lost friends and relations and couldn't say goodbye to them prperly.
fernandopartridge
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The appointment of Sue Gray I suppose was made for good practical reasons, yet it'll now just serve to distract from actual real current issues. We have already well established Johnson lied to parliament, so what? He's no longer the Prime Minister. What difference will talking about it now make to people who can't put food on the table?
fernandopartridge
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Agreed, i hate it when the leaders of parties tell lies to anybody.
Grendel
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Blair lied to parliament which led us into an illegal war.
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So that's all right then?
Grendel
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Well I think he still got re-elected and someone on here said we should forget all that and he is the best prime minister since Sunny Jim Callaghan
Brighton Sky Blue
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The debate around Starmer's appointment is as boring as the man himself.
David O'Day
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This is just a wow, imagine supressing news like this
David O'Day
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Terry Gibson's perm
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If ever there was a reason to stop the ex prime minister dishing out a load of honours to to his mates Stanley Johnson getting one is it.
Sky Blue Pete
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It comes with the system
It’s set up for statesmen and women and gentlemen and ladies and unwritten decorum that we as a society have said fuck it too
We will have to demand a new way of it working if we want something different
He has no shame !
I’ve read both Starmer and Sunak are looking at some kind of reform of HofL.
For starters remove all non attendees (those with below X% attendance) immediately, reduce total number, limit PM ability to submit endless new peerages (maybe one in one our policy) and stop all hereditary peers
I’ve read both Starmer and Sunak are looking at some kind of reform of HofL.
For starters remove all non attendees (those with below X% attendance) immediately, reduce total number, limit PM ability to submit endless new peerages (maybe one in one our policy) and stop all hereditary peers
shmmeee
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Think that’s a very good idea TBH, arguably better than Labours IMO, but I’m a bit conservative when it comes to the HoL. Get the selection criteria right and enforce attendance and maybe speaking time and I’d be quite happy. This is half of that, just need to look at how remaining nominations are made.
skybluetony176
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Tories arguing amongst themselves over the Sue Gray appointment. Maybe it’s having the desired effect
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Fuck it off and make it an elected chamber based on PR.
They're absolutely pathetic.
It only seems to be the headbangers and Johnson cheerleaders up in arms about it
It's Beergate mkII
David O'Day
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skybluetony176
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David O'Day
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Also Isobel Oakshott confuses me, she always looks like she is both smelling a fart and in a wind tunnel
skybluetony176
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Dan Hodges is hilarious (unintentionally) at the moment. Same as he was during beergate. The right must be really worried about Boris’ future in politics. You can only assume he’s done for and they know it.
He seems to be having another meltdown like he did for Beergate.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The problem for a lot of them now is which constituencies could you put them in where they’d win-probably only Tory diehard strongholds with retiring MPs. Johnson would be destroyed in his and few people are willing to give up their seat to prolong his career
skybluetony176
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Local Tories are doing a fair bit of deselecting their sitting MP’s at the moment, 3 already confirmed and I think it’s been suggested that another 3 are on their way out. Unless he gets kicked out of the party I can see Boris giving up his seat and being selected in one of these seats.
skybluetony176
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This will be worrying for Sunak as there doesn’t seem to be a bounce from the Windsor deal, which surprises me also. Also worrying for the Boris camp and their client journalists is no evidence that anyone gives 2 shiny ones about the Sue Gray appointment. I think that will worry Sunak too but less so and certainly not as much as no bounce from Windsor.
David O'Day
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outside of ni no ones really gives a fig about the protocol and in ni no ones for the main parties
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'm amazed this has been overlooked on here...