Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Can't we just social media shame them into forfeiting/reducing fees?
Look at the c**** that want to take money out of educating kids for their own financial benefit.
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Look at the c**** that want to take money out of educating kids for their own financial benefit.
StrettoBoy
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I despair for this country.
We have a choice between a Conservative government that seems to have run out of ideas and Labour led by a man with no principles who will say anything to get elected and who has done a U-turn on just about every major policy.
We have a choice between a Conservative government that seems to have run out of ideas and Labour led by a man with no principles who will say anything to get elected and who has done a U-turn on just about every major policy.
fernandopartridge
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By the sounds of what the shadow chancellor is saying, it's here to stay baby
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shmmeee
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I think most people aren’t stupid enough to think the Labour Party has suddenly become right wing TBH.
It has to be them warts and all just for some competence.
shmmeee
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These people have no shame.
NorthernWisdom
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Shame Galloway's not going out as Respect, or we could have the morons pop their cross in the polar opposite box as they struggled to understand Respect and Reform.
Also chuckled darkly at somebody who said it didn't really matter what the (now former!) Labour candidate said, as he'd still be streets ahead of Galloway in standing up for Jewish interests!
fernandopartridge
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I think Kier Starmer is clearly a raging antisemite and must apologise to the Jewish community at once
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clint van damme
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Surely there has to be more than just the 'Israel knew about Oct 7th attacks' comment?
It's an accusation that's appeared in various forms in the Israeli MSM.
clint van damme
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Meanwhile......
He's an absolute buffoon.
He's an absolute buffoon.
StrettoBoy
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Why do you say that? It strikes me as a sensible campaign to educate people.
Online fraud is ruining lives.
Grendel
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The Green Party candidate has been removed by the party as well
clint van damme
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Read the community notes, his statement is full of lies, he's bullshitting and falsifying the stats in a speech about preventing fraud.
NorthernWisdom
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Isn't the former MP the one whose wife liked flashing her knockers about?
StrettoBoy
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What community notes? I can't see any in the campaign statements to which there is a link in the video.
Grendel
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That’s his ex wife - someone who was in her 20’s - he was then booted out for texting a 17 year old and is now married to a Rwandan half his age.
A pattern is forming
Simon Danczuk, 56, kisses his beauty therapist bride, 28
The happy couple, who have an age gap of almost 30 years, were joined by more than 100 friends and family at the idyllic Sunday Park gardens in Kigali.
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skybluetony176
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I’m old enough to remember the Johnson era when fraud wasn’t considered a crime so they could claim crime was falling when in fact it was up 14%. A typical Tory tale of too little too late.
clint van damme
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Underneath the tweet?
SBAndy
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Doesn’t appear in the embedded tweet to be fair, you have to click on it to see the Community Note.
StrettoBoy
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Not visible to me. I don't have a Twitter/X account. Could that be the reason?
All I get is Cleverly's video promoting the campaign and the link to the campaign's material, all of which seems entirely sensible to me.
StrettoBoy
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Starmer is displaying a total lack of competence. Pathetic U-turns almost every week and clueless over what to do about the Rochdale candidate untill the media forced his hand.
I think he was put on this Earth for the sole purpose of making Sunak look a brilliant leader.
God help us
We're doomed I tell ye, doomed.
clint van damme
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Fair enough, without the community note my post doesn't make sense!
NorthernWisdom
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duffer
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How? How can the left do that exactly.
I voted for a centre-left set of broadly popular policies, as promised by the prospective Labour leader, Keir Starmer.
He then quickly rowed back on everything vaguely to the left and effectively moved the whole party towards the centre-right.
Rather than challenge that, you seem to be saying we should just suck it up.
I wasn't in a protest group, I was in the Labour party, a paying member, and we supposedly found someone of the left who was acceptable. Turns out it was all a front to get power.
The problem isn't with the left mate, it's with politicians like Starmer.
Whoever Labour put up as a leader is going to get hammered by the press. There isn't anyone in that job who won't be slandered or pulled apart.
The job of the leader is to manage that without caving in and to put the case for genuine change rather than just turning chicken every time a Tory paper might get upset.
shmmeee
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Starmer wasn’t the left candidate, he was the soft left candidate (that’s why he won). He could remove any left MPs from cabinet because they kept giving him ammunition and generally not being good at their job. There’s a serious shortage of quality on the left and a serious lack of seriousness. The fact the SCG takes turns at leadership elections, the refusal to engage with the electorate or moderate where they differ. It means the game is lost well before elections, even internal.
I fundamentally don’t believe you can’t make a popular left wing policy platform or front it with a charismatic (or even just boring but effective) leader. There’s only so much you can blame the right and the media and the chemtrails before looking in the mirror ultimately. I voted Corbyn in, he said a lot of good stuff and the truest mental foreign policy stuff wasn’t out the bag yet. But it became clear he just couldn’t handle the job. The snarling at the press, the refusal to not get sucked into trap after trap. Etc. Etc.
Starmer was up against Long-Bailey who is frankly crap. I mean say what you like about Starmer, Cooper, Kendall, Nandy, Burnham, but they do the basics well and understand the game. That’s where the left is failing. And if they didn’t you wouldn’t have it believe that a soft left MP isn’t just telling you what you want to hear because you’ll have a credible left wing candidate to vote for.
fernandopartridge
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Labour will now be made to further submit to nonsensical antisemitism allegations
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Ian1779
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Don’t worry, as a previous Labour MP the media will roll out a picture of him with Corbyn when reporting it.
chiefdave
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Isn't what he's said in line with British Law? Pretty sure its against the Foreign Enlistment Act and when there was talk of people going to fight for Ukraine the Foreign Office pointed out that it was illegal and "anyone who travels to conflict zones to engage in unlawful activity, should expect to be investigated upon their return to the UK".
clint van damme
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Sure someone got done for fighting with the Kurds against ISIS.
We all know the usual rules don't apply to Israel on either side of the Atlantic.
Edit - it's not illegal for a UK citizen to join the IDF.
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StrettoBoy
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His suspension from the party is a bit more complicated than that. As well as those comments it was his presence at the controversial meeting with Azhar Ali and others, the reference to "f*****g Israel" and particularly his opposition to Starmer's Gaza policy where, as he always does, Starmer is trying to look in both directions at the same time.
