"Soft left" or not mate, there were a set of policies Starmer agreed to take forward that he then dropped almost immediately after being elected.
You asked who is there on the left as a plausible candidate, and the most plausible person at that time who supported left-ish policies was Starmer. I think we agree on that.
Where we seem to disagree is that you think that his shift to the right is acceptable, whereas I don't.
You seem to saying now that no matter who fronts up the Labour party, left-ish policies won't get you elected.
Again, on that I would politely differ - the evidence seems to suggest that a lot of the policies that Starmer has ditched would be popular with voters. It would also offer a point of difference to the Tories.
Now that Labour have taken on Tory economic orthodoxy (the maxed-out credit card analogy) they've constrained themselves to centre-right austerity-driven policies. It doesn't have to be this way.
Why is Labour still using the self-defeating, discredited ‘maxed out credit card’ analogy? | Yanis Varoufakis
It is one thing to U-turn on a modest green transition programme. It is another to do so using mendacious Tory economic paradigms, says the economist Yanis Varoufakiswww.theguardian.com
You're just jealous that despite your support he passed you over
Wasn't Tony Blair a member of CND?
Wasn’t Truss too? In between shouting Maggie Maggie Maggie, out out out.
He definitely plays to whoever he's trying to get the vote from"Soft left" or not mate, there were a set of policies Starmer agreed to take forward that he then dropped almost immediately after being elected.
You asked who is there on the left as a plausible candidate, and the most plausible person at that time who supported left-ish policies was Starmer. I think we agree on that.
Where we seem to disagree is that you think that his shift to the right is acceptable, whereas I don't.
You seem to saying now that no matter who fronts up the Labour party, left-ish policies won't get you elected.
Again, on that I would politely differ - the evidence seems to suggest that a lot of the policies that Starmer has ditched would be popular with voters. It would also offer a point of difference to the Tories.
Now that Labour have taken on Tory economic orthodoxy (the maxed-out credit card analogy) they've constrained themselves to centre-right austerity-driven policies. It doesn't have to be this way.
Why is Labour still using the self-defeating, discredited ‘maxed out credit card’ analogy? | Yanis Varoufakis
It is one thing to U-turn on a modest green transition programme. It is another to do so using mendacious Tory economic paradigms, says the economist Yanis Varoufakis
That was sort of the point i was trying to make. Trust an academic expert in election statistics to put it better than a tired biosafety specialist!!
Thanks for the intel agent duffer.On a slightly unrelated topic, I found myself switching over to GB News this morning. Call it morbid interest, or maybe an attempt to avoid the leftie woke echo chamber of government-funded or billionaire-owned news channels.
Anyhow... some observations:
The presenters are astonishingly young and incompetent, and it's so, so cheap. Regardless...
They were raging, and I mean much more overtly angry than you'd see on the BBC, about the obscene profits of the utility companies, and the vast salaries of their senior executives.
It was, way, way beyond what anyone in the current Labour party would say, that's for sure.
There's something here that I can't quite put my finger on.
The people that watch this stuff see exactly the same issue here that exercises lefties like me, and yet vote for parties who will certainly do nothing about it.
They also clearly don't believe that Labour will do much either.
It was a genuinely interesting watch for twenty minutes or so. The adverts suggest that their core audience is old, white, people who mostly want a cheap caravan somewhere for their holidays. My folks, as was, basically!
