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Skybluekyle

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It’s being reported that Boris Johnson, the PM who insisted that we had to introduce voter ID to stop voter fraud (that doesn’t exist on numbers big enough that you can’t count them on one hand) and is definitely not a tool to hamper voter turnout amongst a demographic that would probably vote for someone else, was turned away from his polling station as he had no ID on him.
It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
 

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Ian1779

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It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
It’s a deliberate tactic to discourage certain groups of society from voting.
 

hamertime

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It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
 

Ian1779

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Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
Of those suspected, less than 5 convictions in the last dozen years.

It’s a punitive law that only clowns would consider a necessity.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Well it worked yesterday, left my passport in the office and couldn’t be arsed to go back so no voting for me.
 

PVA

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Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour 😅
 

hamertime

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It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.
And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

 

David O'Day

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And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

Stop arguing with a troll, he's her for a WUM.

Nothing he says is ever true
 

shmmeee

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Sometimes I have to throw something stupid in there otherwise people will get disheartened feeling inferior to me. Not in this case though.

You claimed that a number of alleged voter fraud incidents that happened when there was no voter ID would be higher if there were no voter ID.
 

David O'Day

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Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
How would an illegal immigrant appear on the electoral rolls?

You do know how voting and who can vote works in the UK?
 

David O'Day

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Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
You didn't need ID for those cases skippy.
 

David O'Day

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Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour 😅
Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.
 

skybluetony176

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Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.
 

hamertime

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Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.
Fair play to him for trying to fob the greens off, the most pointless party in the history of the UK
 

PVA

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Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.

Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with :ROFLMAO:
 

chiefdave

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Labour are briefing they believe they are on course for defeat in the West Midlands mayoral race, with support for independent candidate Akhmed Yakoob, who stood on a pro-Gaza ticket, a major factor.

A senior party source said: "It’s the Middle East, not West Midlands, that will have won [Conservative candidate] Andy Street the mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."
Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!
 

Grendel

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Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with :ROFLMAO:

Haven’t you said the main reason you like Starmer is he’s not a Tory (which in reality he is)?
 
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Grendel

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Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!

It’s a similar line to that peddled in Oldham where they lost council seats to pro Palestine independents
 

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