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Brighton Sky Blue

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Can only assume it was a slip of the tongue or a mistake. Surely he wouldn’t intentionally say that?

He’s reached the stage that Cartman did in the South Park Tourette’s episode
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yes you are probably right - he will go when it suits the Conservative Party as a whole.

There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.
 
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There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.
It'd obviously be Jeremy Hunt as the frontrunner. Long spells in government, vaguely statesmanlike and competent, true Tory ideology, runner up in last leadership election... and in a clash of men in grey suits, chances are the Conservative version would look more authentic than the Labour one.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It'd obviously be Jeremy Hunt as the frontrunner. Long spells in government, vaguely statesmanlike and competent, true Tory ideology, runner up in last leadership election... and in a clash of men in grey suits, chances are the Conservative version would look more authentic than the Labour one.

I have this sneaky feeling Gove would win
 

Grendel

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How do you know it's false?

How do you know others don't find it offensive?

I just think bandying that word out like confetti is pretty awful behaviour and I don't know what you're trying to achieve but it's not a good look.

Well selective outrage never is
 

skybluetony176

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Now this is a shocker



He’s done nothing but support Boris all along, has even been gifted 2 questions at PMQ’s of the would the PM agree with me that the PM is great type since the partygate story broke.
 
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Now this is a shocker



He’s done nothing but support Boris all along, has even been gifted 2 questions at PMQ’s of the would the PM agree with me that the PM is great type since the partygate story broke.

That's a proper shocker.

Mind you, Johnson's maybe a bit too tolerant of gays for him...
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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A bit too quirky and leftfield after Johnson. A bit like football managers, Tory party leaders tend to be quite different in how they present themselves to their predecessors!

And yet surprisingly well liked by the public as Tory stooges go. Certainly the preferred option among the Tory voters I know
 

Grendel

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There is the question of who should succeed him whether now or later. His stooges have stood by and defended the criminal PM and the backbenches are unknowns.

Didn’t you once remark Tony Blair was a criminal and should be dragged to The Hague for war crimes?
 
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And yet surprisingly well liked by the public as Tory stooges go. Certainly the preferred option among the Tory voters I know
But after Johnson (and, for that matter, while Starmer is leader of the Labour Party) any kind of leftfield character candidate probably won't play well overall.

The contest isn't for constant Tory voters after all.
 

Grendel

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Yes and I stand by that. His buddy George who admitted the invasion was bogus can join him.

Yet his labour buddies stood by him

Have you recovered from that?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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But after Johnson (and, for that matter, while Starmer is leader of the Labour Party) any kind of leftfield character candidate probably won't play well overall.

The contest isn't for constant Tory voters after all.

Well it's Tory members and MPs who choose the leader. Hunt would appear too similar to his wet lettuce opponent
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yet his labour buddies stood by him

Have you recovered from that?

The Iraq war was one of the great criminal acts of our time-though it was supported by both sides of the House like it was in the US. Not a dye in the wool Labour voter so yes I am capable of criticising the party and its leaders
 
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I guess we shall see. They did after all choose a birthday clown to replace dear Theresa
Recently though, bar the replacement of one balding reactionary with another (and at least Hague was vaguely competent and dynamic!) they've swapped character really.

Thatcher to Major was going for dour after charisma, Major to Duncan-Smith was moderate to righty mental, Cameron was young and pseudo moderate in comparison to having something of the night about him, May was the dour, safe option.

What Hunt can do is present himself quite well, and think on his feet. If I was Labour and Starmer I'd be a lot more worried about him than the mentals who are out there. Chances are after a pretty terrible and chaotic last few years, boring can be a selling point, too!

And what the Tories can do is sell boring better than Labour...
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Haha, different though

No doubt Goves got a bit about him, intelligent, interesting background etc but as I say, can’t see it happening

Has hung around the scene since the start and is pretty intelligent compared to most of the Cabinet. His dismantling of Piers Morgan was a rare lockdown highlight
 

CCFCSteve

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Recently though, bar the replacement of one balding reactionary with another (and at least Hague was vaguely competent and dynamic!) they've swapped character really.

Thatcher to Major was going for dour after charisma, Major to Duncan-Smith was moderate to righty mental, Cameron was young and pseudo moderate in comparison to having something of the night about him, May was the dour, safe option.

What Hunt can do is present himself quite well, and think on his feet. If I was Labour and Starmer I'd be a lot more worried about him than the mentals who are out there. Chances are after a pretty terrible and chaotic last few years, boring can be a selling point, too!

And what the Tories can do is sell boring better than Labour...

Agree with this

I’m still hoping someone credible comes out of leftfield

All I’d ask though is whoever’s in charge gets the best people around them in cabinet
 

CCFCSteve

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Has hung around the scene since the start and is pretty intelligent compared to most of the Cabinet. His dismantling of Piers Morgan was a rare lockdown highlight

He’s probably the best talker/debater they’ve got. I might be wrong but I’m just not convinced he’ll put himself forward for reasons suggested
 
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He’s probably the best talker/debater they’ve got. I might be wrong but I’m just not convinced he’ll put himself forward for reasons suggested
He's got an ego, hasn't stopped him trying before (and elbowing Johnson out of one contest, too).
 

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