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PVA

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I said a crushing defeat under Liz Truss. Because she is that useless.

I said the reputation is damaged. That is a fact. A prime minister with an 80 seat majority has just been forced out for that very reason. If you don't think the reputation has been damaged then that's up to you, but it quite clearly has.

If an election was held tomorrow then it would be a big Labour majority.

An election in a year or two, who knows, long way to go. But as of right now I would still predict a Labour majority.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I flounder?

You make a statement that the reputation is damaged and yesterday there would be a crushing defeat

Now you don’t see to even be able to express a view how that will manifest itself in parliament

I’ve said what I think will happen - a minority government which labour will need the support of several other parties - that’s not floundering that’s a view based on what I see

So what’s your view for the next election outcome - you must have one from the evidence around you?

I don't see how you can predict that with any certainty when the leader is unknown and there's still 2 years left to play.
 

Grendel

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I don't see how you can predict that with any certainty when the leader is unknown and there's still 2 years left to play.

prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority

Starmer has taken the by election results as evidence of a Labour recovery-they were anti Johnson protest votes. He has also openly abandoned his leadership pledges using Covid as an excuse.

It's a wide open goal and he's dithering in front of it more than the CCFC forward line
 

Grendel

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Starmer has taken the by election results as evidence of a Labour recovery-they were anti Johnson protest votes. He has also openly abandoned his leadership pledges using Covid as an excuse.

It's a wide open goal and he's dithering in front of it more than the CCFC forward line

There’s every chance he will be prime minister of a minority government but you look at Sunak and his economic strategy and Rachel Reeves and as of yet is their a massive difference? Can’t see it myself
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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There’s every chance he will be prime minister of a minority government but you look at Sunak and his economic strategy and Rachel Reeves and as of yet is their a massive difference? Can’t see it myself

I suppose he can use there being no ties to a corrupt administration but he'll need to come up with a more inspiring vision than that. Sunak can in return say 'I'm rich so trust me with the cash'
 

Grendel

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I suppose he can use there being no ties to a corrupt administration but he'll need to come up with a more inspiring vision than that. Sunak can in return say 'I'm rich so trust me with the cash'

Reeves is worth £100 million isnt she?
 
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I didn’t as I caveated it with the fact that the questions were skewed

If it’s reputation is trashed you mean surely there is irreparable damage similar to the end of the labour administration in the late 70’s and therefore a failure to gain office for several years or the blood letting following the fall of Major?

Your statement implies surely years in tbe wilderness - do you think that’s going to happen?
I don't think it will the next election, but who's in charge after that will be key...
prediction isn’t certainty but based on the fact the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb since the death throes of the major administration and there is no real support for Starmer himself I don’t see a labour majority at all - however inflation kills governments so whoever leads tbe tories is unlikely to gain a majority
And on that note... I'd be surprised, given our electoral system, if the Conservatives would lose their 80 seat majority enough to end up in opposition... unless they double down and elect Liz Truss. She's like Boris Johnson without the charisma!
 

PVA

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Truss when talking


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Otis

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Ha..


It does make me laugh. Only a few weeks ago all the Tories were saying how they had done such a good job and were bigging up their record and success.

Now all of a sudden, everything seems to be wrong.

There was a vote of confidence in the PM a few weeks ago and they voted for Boris. Now all of a sudden no-one would even have him in their cabinet.

Politicians..😂 they don't half make me laugh.
 

SIR ERNIE

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Why are the Conservative Party allowing themselves to be involved in this lefty media driven circus?
 

skybluetony176

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Truss wants to take credit for copy and pasting the EU’s homework on the Japan trade deal and wants to pretend that Australia trade deal is good, which of course it isn’t.
 

PVA

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Mordaunt is a lot worse at this than I expected.

Sunak probably the least worse tonight.

He's just too smarmy which grates.
 

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