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rob9872

rob9872

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Otis said:
I didn't even know that was a word. Never ever heard that before. 🤔
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A new one on me too, but in context it appears that she knew what she was saying and the apology a little hollow.
 
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oakey said:
www.theguardian.com

Emily Maitlis says ‘active Tory party agent’ shaping BBC news output

Former Newsnight presenter says former No 10 communications chief Sir Robbie Gibb on board acting as ‘arbiter of impartiality’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

At last
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All rings so true.

It's so striking that the BBC just never points out the negative impacts of Brexit even when the links are so obvious. In the review of the papers programme on BBC news there is always a look of panic on the presenters' face whenever one of the guests points out the damage Brexit has caused.

The points she makes about the ridiculous way in which they try to prove they are not biased are so true. Having to have a lunatic view to balance someone who represents the views of the majority of experts isn't balance. Question time is unwatchable now because of this.

Also notable that any in depth and intelligent programmes like Dateline London that challenge the populist views are being closed down.

Only in this sort of environment could people like Johnson and Truss become Prime Minister.
 
jimmyhillsfanclub

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Clearly its all about perception.

Plenty of polls and independent reviews and fact checks show the BBC to be about as fair as possible.
Fairly equal split in those that view it as left leaning, right leaning, liberal and conservative/traditional in its coverage.
As long as those doing the wokey-cokey thinks it's a tory mouthpiece and all the gammon heads think it's a commie lgbt establishment...its doing a good job.

....and speaking of jobs....oh look...Emily's got a new one!
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Plenty of polls and independent reviews and fact checks show the BBC to be about as fair as possible.
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They do - I was involved in one of them! Although I haven't checked recent research to see if that still applies.

Where she's definitely right is in the imbalanced balance, where you have to get the counter-view on for a response, regardless of whether the counter-view is a ridiculous loonish minority. There's a difference between fairly showing two sides of a Brexit debate, say (and even then her economic example is fair as to when two sides can be disengenuous), and two sides of something where consensus is almost entirely in one side, and the opposing view is a distinct rump of nothing.
 
skybluetony176

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Clearly its all about perception.

Plenty of polls and independent reviews and fact checks show the BBC to be about as fair as possible.
Fairly equal split in those that view it as left leaning, right leaning, liberal and conservative/traditional in its coverage.
As long as those doing the wokey-cokey thinks it's a tory mouthpiece and all the gammon heads think it's a commie lgbt establishment...its doing a good job.

....and speaking of jobs....oh look...Emily's got a new one!
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When people criticise the press, especially true of a lot of current cabinet members who are using the old witch-hunt analogy when it comes to Boris. Someone pointed out recently what Tommy Docherty sometimes said in jest about being sacked as manager by Manchester United. The press got me the sack because they kept printing the results.
 
Frostie

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Deleted member 9744 said:
All rings so true.

It's so striking that the BBC just never points out the negative impacts of Brexit even when the links are so obvious. In the review of the papers programme on BBC news there is always a look of panic on the presenters' face whenever one of the guests points out the damage Brexit has caused.

The points she makes about the ridiculous way in which they try to prove they are not biased are so true. Having to have a lunatic view to balance someone who represents the views of the majority of experts isn't balance. Question time is unwatchable now because of this.

Also notable that any in depth and intelligent programmes like Dateline London that challenge the populist views are being closed down.

Only in this sort of environment could people like Johnson and Truss become Prime Minister.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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skybluetony176 said:
When people criticise the press, especially true of a lot of current cabinet members who are using the old witch-hunt analogy when it comes to Boris. Someone pointed out recently what Tommy Docherty sometimes said in jest about being sacked as manager by Manchester United. The press got me the sack because they kept printing the results.
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They're all using the Trump playbook now.

Ride roughshod over law and common decency then act the injured party when called out on it, claiming witchhunts and bias. For some reason there always seems to be enough people willing to lap it up.
 
skybluetony176

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Do you know, I think I've come round to the idea of Boris Johnson in charge as opposed to the alternatives come September...
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I don’t think too much will change. Stupid idea, public outcry, u turn, lie, lie some more making sure that there’s a flag in the background, avoid difficult questions by going missing, we got brexit done, vaccine rollout. Just with a less convincing liar who won’t carry the same sway as Boris. I say less convincing, anyone with half a brain cell could see through the lies, I guess I mean without a liar who’s capable of lying with such a conviction that it’s the truth.
 
clint van damme

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Clearly its all about perception.

Plenty of polls and independent reviews and fact checks show the BBC to be about as fair as possible.
Fairly equal split in those that view it as left leaning, right leaning, liberal and conservative/traditional in its coverage.
As long as those doing the wokey-cokey thinks it's a tory mouthpiece and all the gammon heads think it's a commie lgbt establishment...its doing a good job.

....and speaking of jobs....oh look...Emily's got a new one!
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And the bbcs got a new chairman. Guess which political party he donates to?
 
clint van damme

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skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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clint van damme said:
I can't believe more tories aren't condemning this?
Isn't wanting out waterways full of shit a 'leftie'thing?
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I was reading something the other day that £75B was paid out in dividends (don’t recall if it was one specific water provider or the entire sector) only £5B was invested in infrastructure since privatisation. That on its own is an argument for public ownership. Think of the investment that could be made in cleaning up rivers, lakes and beaches.
 
rob9872

rob9872

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skybluetony176 said:
When people criticise the press, especially true of a lot of current cabinet members who are using the old witch-hunt analogy when it comes to Boris. Someone pointed out recently what Tommy Docherty sometimes said in jest about being sacked as manager by Manchester United. The press got me the sack because they kept printing the results.
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Tony's mentioned football - I think we're all done here, the thread is finished.
 
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