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skybluetony176

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Time to play Guess Tony's Wife's Job
To be serious it’s kind of irrelevant. Her experience is common to working in the public sector over the last couple of decades. She could literally work in any sector in any organisation of the civil service and there’s no shortage of people with the same/similar experience.
 

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To be serious it’s kind of irrelevant. Her experience is common to working in the public sector over the last couple of decades. She could literally work in any sector in any organisation of the civil service and there’s no shortage of people with the same/similar experience.
Irrelevant, but makes me nosy ;) Where I work requires specific postgraduate degrees... apart from me, and that's reflected in the fact that it's my hours that keep getting cut in a crisis!I earn less now than I did in 2008, without even needing to adjust for inflation. And yep, when I'm in shortly I'm checking my pension contribution ;) It def isn't a final salary scheme, and I'm fairly sure the employer contribution isn't what's been claimed earlier. Given my salary decline it's not exactly a compensation, anyway.

I don't, tbf, like the woe is me kind of thing as there are people worse off but hell... I have applied for jobs outside, but I'm also shit at interviews, so that's a bit of a bugger!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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All I know is that when my wife started work as a civil servant almost 25 years ago she was getting a 26% contribution. Between her job being moved around different areas of the civil service, then being contracted out to different private companies because she went part time when we did the greatest service to the country in supplying our replacements to society having now “chosen” to go back full time now our replacements are older to help with the effects of the cost of living on our household she has had to sign a new contract so her new pension contribution is now up to 9%. Her dept is currently running with less than half the staff they need as they can’t attract new employees with the pay they’re offering before you even get into terms and conditions, it a highly qualified job requiring a specific degree (or recognised equivalent) in the field and any potential new employees could literally go and drive a forklift for more money. Oh. And she hasn’t had a pay rise in ten years because she’s on the highest pay grade for her job.

Why the fuck would anyone now choose to enter into working in the public sector.
Job for life 😂😂😂
 

skybluetony176

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Job for life 😂😂😂
It certainly was when she started. The only people they can attract now into are fresh out of university, stay for a couple of years to get the experience on their CV before moving on. Sometimes they don’t even go into the private sector. Just move to a neighbouring county doing the same job but for an authority who hasn’t contracted their job out to the private sector, instantly improving their pay, terms and conditions. Also with the benefit if their job does get contracted out to the private sector they have the protection of tupe rules.
 

CCFCSteve

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Encouraging people to sacrifice some of their pension because we insist on not paying them properly isn’t a great idea.

I never said it was instead of a payrise but there’s potential solutions that might make certain workers lives easier, especially during high inflationary periods or times in people’s lives where expenses are higher… let’s ignore that though and the fact that a lot of nurses move to agency because more basic salary now and shit rota operations in nhs

People can’t have it both ways, solely focus on basic salaries and not wider package benefits and then ignore options that might boost basic salary now
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I never said it was instead of a payrise but there’s potential solutions that might make certain workers lives easier, especially during high inflationary periods or times in people’s lives where expenses are higher… let’s ignore that though and the fact that a lot of nurses move to agency because more basic salary now and shit rota operations in nhs

People can’t have it both ways, solely focus on basic salaries and not wider package benefits and then ignore options that might boost basic salary now

It’s kicking the can down the road-not an actual solution.
 

CCFCSteve

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It’s kicking the can down the road-not an actual solution.

How is giving people the opportunity to release say 10% of their salary for a period of time kicking the can down the road ? It’s their money, theyve earned it if they need it now, let them have it. From memory nurses would still receive emp’er contribution of 10% during that period, together with their own contributions, more than most people stick in their pension

The alternative is those staff move to agency, dont get any of the pension/benefits but get higher basic ?! nhs ends up paying agency firm for supplying staff 🤷‍♂️
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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When my wife does agency work she does it through nhsp the rates for that are nothing like these agencies you see and the major saving is she doesn’t have to make any pension contributions.

There is an unbelievable lack flexibility in the nhs now compared to when she started.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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How is giving people the opportunity to release say 10% of their salary for a period of time kicking the can down the road ? It’s their money, theyve earned it if they need it now, let them have it. From memory nurses would still receive emp’er contribution of 10% during that period, together with their own contributions, more than most people stick in their pension

The alternative is those staff move to agency, dont get any of the pension/benefits but get higher basic ?! nhs ends up paying agency firm for supplying staff 🤷‍♂️

It just gives you a smaller retirement pot when you should be getting paid enough to both have a strong pension pot and be fine day to day. I don’t see why a compromise needs to be made sorry
 

clint van damme

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Good to see British Gas debt collectors being allowed to break in to people’s houses to install meters though. One of those jobs you can really respect

In one instance 4 of them broke into a deaf woman's house while she was sleeping. I'd rather starve than do that for a living.
Fuck them and the tory vermin who've brought us to this point.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Good to see British Gas debt collectors being allowed to break in to people’s houses to install meters though. One of those jobs you can really respect
I've heard that today and just seen the news .
No one has clarified what they mean by " break in" .Are they forcing locks or windows, just like what we would call " burglars" ?
 

chiefdave

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Good to see British Gas debt collectors being allowed to break in to people’s houses to install meters though. One of those jobs you can really respect
Pre pay meters and high direct debits have, among other things, been raised recently as issues with the way energy companies were behaving. The government's response was that they were going to ask them nicely to behave better. Can't see that having much impact
 

clint van damme

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Just been another woman on the radio, they broke into her house and installed the metre and she wasn't in arrears. Absolute wankers.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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It’s so nice a person is struggling so let’s force them to have something that costs even more.
While I think pre-payment meters are ok by themselves, I really can't fathom them costing extra.

Where else would you paying in advance mean you pay a higher unit price for the goods? It's absolutely despicable and should be outlawed immediately.

Unit price should be the same as paying monthly/quarterly, or less.
 

Grendel

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Shell makes a record £32 billion profit but energy nationalisation is still not the solution… 🤔

I don’t somehow think you can nationalise shell
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Genuinely though, from a legal standpoint it is going to be very interesting if some of these British Gas agents break into the wrong persons house and get a 'reaction' from the home owner.

Ever since I've been renting, and then eventually paying a mortgage, I've always found energy companies to make a massive stress. Incorrect bills, 'losing' payments, not letting you leave etc etc. They seem utterly out of control now, and what the fuck is the point of Ofgem in all of this? I'm definitely in favour of doing whatever is necessary to bring them down a notch.
 

clint van damme

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Genuinely though, from a legal standpoint it is going to be very interesting if some of these British Gas agents break into the wrong persons house and get a 'reaction' from the home owner.

Ever since I've been renting, and then eventually paying a mortgage, I've always found energy companies to make a massive stress. Incorrect bills, 'losing' payments, not letting you leave etc etc. They seem utterly out of control now, and what the fuck is the point of Ofgem in all of this? I'm definitely in favour of doing whatever is necessary to bring them down a notch.

Did think about the ramifications if someone leathered one of them myself, would be interesting.
 

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