clint van damme
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We've had enough of woke speeding restrictions stopping people getting obliterated on our roads.
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We've had enough of woke speeding restrictions stopping people getting obliterated on our roads.
skybluetony176
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Because he can’t fight the next GE on record?
Ian1779
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Saving kids lives is woke obviously….
David O'Day
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These Tory anti environmental policies are the kind of shite someone sniffed up at 2am would come up with
fernandopartridge
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Their entire period in government has been mostly for the benefit of spiteful boomers, this is just the encore
skybluetony176
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Going by the media rounds this morning it’s falling flat. He’s just had a hissy fit on the radio because the interviewer dared to ask if he was flying up to Scotland in a private jet to make his big environmental announcement.
fernandopartridge
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This is spot on
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David O'Day
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so the government is moving in to an unpopular space that is unlikely to win them any votes
Sky Blue Pete
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He’s on the side of the motorist ffs what a twat
fernandopartridge
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Yet apparently was the difference in a recent by-election. Make your mind up Dave.
skybluetony176
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In what was a safe Tory seat. Although I’d agree that Labours reaction to it was stupid. They should have doubled down. I think come the GE all the excitement around the ULEZ extension will have died down when as people realise it actually doesn’t effect them. Still not convinced it will turn at the GE either. Lost opportunity for Labour.
David O'Day
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No, the difference was a specific policy that could be spun to make it seem like everyone would have to pay thousands a year more.
So unless there is a hidden cost that the public will have to pay behind 20 mile an hour speed limits then it is not the same.
Keep up at the back Fernando,
David O'Day
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That Labour were that close in Uxbridge tells you how bad it was for the tories, they didn't win that seat in 1997
SkyBlueCharlie9
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The 6000 new home settlement masterplan Ive been working on for a decade, with all roads 20mph might be f*****d then! Classic tory anti-pedestrian and cycle policies. Very very sad day.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So a Tory think-tank then.
clint van damme
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I'd never heard of this before, absolutely awful. Shades of Grenfell.
news.sky.com
Summerland disaster: Families fight for justice after holiday paradise inferno killed 50 people
The Summerland leisure complex was designed to hold 10,000 tourists coming to the seafront and included a bingo hall, five floors of amusement games and a dance hall - but there were mistakes in the design and glaring fire safety errors on the night of a deadly blaze.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Will be interesting to see how much Mr Starmer throws at this given it’s not in middle England and in a more left wing former heartland.
Margaret Ferrier: Covid breach MP loses seat after recall petition
A by-election will now be held after almost 12,000 of her constituents signed a recall petition.
www.bbc.co.uk
fernandopartridge
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I saw a documentary about it a few years ago. Yeah you're right about that.I'd never heard of this before, absolutely awful. Shades of Grenfell.
Summerland disaster: Families fight for justice after holiday paradise inferno killed 50 people
The Summerland leisure complex was designed to hold 10,000 tourists coming to the seafront and included a bingo hall, five floors of amusement games and a dance hall - but there were mistakes in the design and glaring fire safety errors on the night of a deadly blaze.
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skybluetony176
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I’d only heard of it because I’ve been to the IOM and people were still talking about it 25 years later.I'd never heard of this before, absolutely awful. Shades of Grenfell.
Summerland disaster: Families fight for justice after holiday paradise inferno killed 50 people
The Summerland leisure complex was designed to hold 10,000 tourists coming to the seafront and included a bingo hall, five floors of amusement games and a dance hall - but there were mistakes in the design and glaring fire safety errors on the night of a deadly blaze.
skybluetony176
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Former Labour safe seat. If Starmer doesn’t win this back Sunak will be claiming it as a Tory victory. Most interesting thing about it will be that it’s a test of how strong SNP support remains given the turmoil that the party is in. A first insight into what may happen at the GE.Will be interesting to see how much Mr Starmer throws at this given it’s not in middle England and in a more left wing former heartland.
Margaret Ferrier: Covid breach MP loses seat after recall petition
A by-election will now be held after almost 12,000 of her constituents signed a recall petition.www.bbc.co.uk
skybluetony176
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Was quietly announced yesterday but scraping the EU CE standard and mark is now not happening. Still tried to make out that it was a Brexit win though as the climb down would now not create the extra brexit red tape that it would have created for UK manufacturing and distribution had we introduced the proposed UKCA standard and mark. Not taking back control is now a Brexit benefit, not even making it up.
Ian1779
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Luckily for Starmer he’s got a raft of cool policies to turn the seat over like…
Don’t scrap the 2 child cap
Keep all the new fossil fuel licences the Tories are handing out
Keep the utilities privatised so Centrica can maintain their profits.
shmmeee
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fernandopartridge
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It's worse though isn't it because UK cannot accredit stuff as CE marked?
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skybluetony176
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I couldn’t say for certain but I would guess not on new products. We lost the ability I would think to accredit goods when we left both the EU and the EEA (the CE mark covers both the EU and EEA). The EU took back control. If it’s product with an existing CE mark I would guess that it makes no difference, new products I guess would have to be sent to a third country in the EU to be accredited before it can hit consumers. Still, at least you’re starting to grasp what a monumentally stupid idea it was to vote leave.
skybluetony176
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Also quietly announced yesterday was that when Truss crashed the economy devaluing the pound it added £91B to the Brexit divorce bill. Which begs the question how much would the Brexit divorce bill have been had the referendum result not crashed the pound?
fernandopartridge
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God almighty Tony, your own post says that CE marking is not an exclusive right of EU membership.
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skybluetony176
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God almighty Fernando, I know. You seem to be back tracking on it being “worse” when the truth is it is worse because we jeopardised access to an even larger market place than the EU on our doorstep for empty slogans. Still, that’s what happens when you put your faith in Boris.
fernandopartridge
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Last post on this as it is tedious.
You voted for his party mate, not me. This issue wouldn't arise if post leaving the EU the UK remained an EEA member state and / or Single Market member as I would have liked. The Remain campaign post referendum instead of focusing on the elements of membership that had greatest benefit decided to spend their time throwing a hissy fit about the result.
I do not deny that Brexit has been disaster but that's not because of Brexit per se, it's because of the way it has been implemented. Until smart arse FBPE types start to grasp that we'll continually be locked in this simplistic rejoin or remain outside debate.
ENDS
skybluetony176
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Fernando sweetheart. Leaving in the EU and remaining in the EEA was not the question you were asked in the referendum. You had 2 options. Remain, better the devil you know. Or Leave and enjoy a Tory brexit rolling out the red carpet for Boris to be PM in the bargain. You voted for the latter. For a while it looked like you dodged the Boris bullet but ultimately you got what you voted for. There was no remain campaign post brexit, that ended the day we went to the polls. I know you clearly need to point the finger in another direction because you (by your own admission) didn’t understand what you voted for but everything that followed from the lunatics taking over the asylum to the historic fall of the red wall is all on you and everyone else’s who voted leave on that day. The referendum was a point of inflection in the UK.
Just think if we’d have remained Cameron would have finished his second term and without the distraction of Brexit and the polarisation of the traditional Labour vote it caused Corbyn would have thought a GE on nothing but the failure of austerity and almost certainly won. Still you prefered to risk it all for a Tory brexit. Well done.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Grendel
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Would be quite a turnout if he was unveiling the away kit at 9 pm
skybluetony176
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Dude. Like I already said on the thread about the American bloke (ie not the politics thread in the off topic section) love his first name not so keen on his surname. Even got some likes for my comment. If you spent more time on the football threads and less time in the politics threads you might have noticed
Grendel
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It was Farage Tony would show up - meet his hero again