Do you want to discuss boring politics? (15 Viewers)

rob9872

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Of course its all relative, I think but don't know but I think Rob feels kind of left behind?

By events either natural or legislated for!
Not at all mate, just on the wind up as usual. Now the GE has been called I should probably retreat again and leave this conversation for the grown ups 😀 👍
 

duffer

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Like not paying taxes or adhering to speed limits?

Are you Jimmy Carr, or Jeremy Clarkson.

Voting should be a duty, not just a "right" as you wokerati like to go on about.

Fucking snowflakes, going on about how representative democracy is not for them.

Oh do give over with the "snowflake/wokerati" rubbish. If anything you're the one being overly precious here by endlessly banging on about it - and those phrases are really just meaningless gibberish intended to insult.

Anyway, people fought and died for our right to protest too. On that basis I demand that you go on a protest next weekend, otherwise you are disrespecting their memory. No?

It's such a poor argument, the "fought and died for" one.

Regardless, I can just as reasonably state that Peterloo etc. was a fight for the _right_ to vote, not the compulsion to do so. Or was that in the small print on the placards?
 

JAM See

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Oh do give over with the "snowflake/wokerati" rubbish. If anything you're the one being overly precious here by endlessly banging on about it - and those phrases are really just meaningless gibberish intended to insult.

Anyway, people fought and died for our right to protest too. On that basis I demand that you go on a protest next weekend, otherwise you are disrespecting their memory. No?

It's such a poor argument, the "fought and died for" one.

Regardless, I can just as reasonably state that Peterloo etc. was a fight for the _right_ to vote, not the compulsion to do so. Or was that in the small print on the placards?
Nice invective.

However...

You are wrong

I am right

Don't bother replying
 

Philosoraptor

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Of course, the speech for whomever wins on July 4th will be going against the greatest political speech in history.

 

Skybluekyle

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Americans talking about the implication of the date chosen. If we consciously tried to ensure we did not conflict with a country celebrating independence from the UK, we'd have very few dates to choose from. Same as Coventry City, it's tough being fucking huge
 

duffer

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Nice invective.

However...

You are wrong

I am right

Don't bother replying

No invective mate, that's all from you with the usual meaningless 'snowflake' bullshit.

Clearly you've figured out this is an argument you can't win via rational debate so you're down to playground level now.

A bit poor, but if it shuts you up on it for a bit, that's got to be a win for me I guess.

Would you like a medal for second place, or would that be too 'woke' for you? x
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Sunak must have thought he was being so clever by saying the election would be ‘in the second half of the year’ knowing it would be in July.

The last desperate throw of the dice from a doomed government
 

JAM See

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No invective mate, that's all from you with the usual meaningless 'snowflake' bullshit.

Clearly you've figured out this is an argument you can't win via rational debate so you're down to playground level now.

A bit poor, but if it shuts you up on it for a bit, that's got to be a win for me I guess.

Would you like a medal for second place, or would that be too 'woke' for you? x
Typical Tory language.

It's not about winning and losing my dear.

It's about right and wrong.

Crack on with your 'medal' chat darling.

I'll concentrate on fighting the good fight.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Like not paying taxes or adhering to speed limits?

Are you Jimmy Carr, or Jeremy Clarkson.

Voting should be a duty, not just a "right" as you wokerati like to go on about.

Fucking snowflakes, going on about how representative democracy is not for them.
How far would you go in enforcing this law out of interest? Fine? Prison?
 

JAM See

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How far would you go in enforcing this law out of interest? Fine? Prison?
Thirty quid fine.

No criminal record or anything, just make it a pain in the arse for people not to participate in the democratic process.

Like parking, but more important.
 

shmmeee

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Show your patriotism by making sure not one of your citizens is homeless, not by getting a hard on for a flag.

It’s the flag of the country he wants to lead. Literally every head of state and leader across the planet stands in front of their flag.

I really don’t get why we’re especially weird about it.
 

shmmeee

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I don’t think it’s animosity to a flag, it’s the idea that you can ONLY be patriotic in that way.

Literally no one is saying that. Just that it means something to a lot of people that isn’t what overly online bigotry obsessed politics nerds think when they see it. Most people don’t think of Tommy Robinson or whatever, especially with the Union Flag, they think of Geri Haliwell and Austin Powers and GBBO.
 

JAM See

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You'd end up with the uk equivalent of the donkey vote.
Every constituency in the country would have a candidate called Aaron Aardvark on it!
Nice pithy comment, but complete bollocks.

Aaron Aardvark would lose their deposit.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Any c**t who doesn't vote is a c**t.
 

duffer

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Typical Tory language.

It's not about winning and losing my dear.

It's about right and wrong.

Crack on with your 'medal' chat darling.

I'll concentrate on fighting the good fight.

So as previous, you've got no actual rational argument.

You're not fighting the good fight, you're walking away from it!

Make your case for compulsory voting if you've got one.

I've got no problem with having a reasonable discussion on it, but don't think a handful of cheap slurs and a circular insistence that you're right because you're right somehow proves your case.
 

JAM See

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So as previous, you've got no actual rational argument.

You're not fighting the good fight, you're walking away from it!

Make your case for compulsory voting if you've got one.

I've got no problem with having a reasonable discussion on it, but don't think a handful of cheap slurs and a circular insistence that you're right because you're right somehow proves your case.
Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good.

Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad.

Is that simple enough for you?
 

JAM See

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If the vote was between two fascist parties would voting still be better than not?
Another non sequitur.

What's that question got to do with the thread?

Open a new one called "Thought experiments" or something.

Meanwhile, let the grown ups crack on with having a debate.
 

duffer

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Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good.

Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad.

Is that simple enough for you?

Voting good. Compulsion to do so bad. Is that simple enough for you?

Face it mate, you've got an opinion you can't support except by mindless repetition and unnecessary unpleasantness. It's fucking boring.

Get someone coherent if you want to win your 'good fight', you're obviously not quite up to it.
 

Liquid Gold

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Rumours that something big and bad is about to happen, I've heard a water company or big university going bust, and that is why he's gone now to try and pin it on Labour.
 

Liquid Gold

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Anyway, Greens for me. I think they can genuinely turn my seat and it's a Green/Lab marginal so I can do it with a clean conscience.
 

Ian1779

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Rumours that something big and bad is about to happen, I've heard a water company or big university going bust, and that is why he's gone now to try and pin it on Labour.
My wife thinks there’s an asteroid, or another pandemic coming.

Was it Dowden that said stock up for a disaster yesterday?
 

Tommo1993

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Well it’s never good when a political correspondent gets booted out of a campaign event. Regardless of the pool reporting thing that goes on, it’s an awful look.
 

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