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CCFCSteve

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Sunak has had to start the day apologising for leaving the D Day event early to do an interview with ITV. How is he so bad at this? Who on earth is advising him?

Shambolic and embarrassing. As you say who the fuck is advising him but even so, he should know himself that some things are more important. Farage will have a field day
 

skybluetony176

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Shambolic and embarrassing. As you say who the fuck is advising him but even so, he should know himself that some things are more important. Farage will have a field day
It gets worse



He’s got to be actively trying to lose his seat. It’s the only thing that makes sense. He’s going to be gutted if he retains it and that’s the most likely outcome.
 

Skybluekyle

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Sunak has had to start the day apologising for leaving the D Day event early to do an interview with ITV. How is he so bad at this? Who on earth is advising him?
Receives praise one day for his national service policy from a certain cohort of people, and next minute leaves the D-Day anniversary and upset the same people who praised him.

Starmer: Oh Sunak, can't you go five seconds without embarrassing yourself?

(pisses people off by leaving D-Day anniversary)

Sunak: How long was that?
 
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Are Johnson's campaign managers getting their revenge or something? D Day is meat and drink for a Tory PM - plays to their perceived strengths, mutter a couple of lines about support for armed forces, and it's an open goal for them!
 

chiefdave

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He’s got to be actively trying to lose his seat. It’s the only thing that makes sense. He’s going to be gutted if he retains it and that’s the most likely outcome.
Even if his advisors have for some reason all got it in for him and are advising things that make him look an idiots surely he can think for himself and overrule things that are so obviously going to cause a problem.
 

skybluetony176

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Sounds like this is really blowing up. Sunak is having his Brown “that woman was a bigot” moment but on steroids. He’s now been forced to apologise. Coming up next, Sunak can’t eat a sandwich. We should have started a Sunak Bingo card when he announced the GE although I doubt anyone would have had leaving D Day celebrations early to do a TV interview.
 

Grendel

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What is it that 1 in 5 see in Farage?

An arrogant liar born with a silver spoon in his mouth and who gives a shit about nothing and no one

Farage is a one issue politician. He can run rings round mainstream politicians as he has an ability to maximise publicity and can engage people through force of personality. Its easy for him to cause mayhem.

Comparing him to the likes of Johnson and laughably Sunak is ridiculous.

The one real comparison is George Galloway - a highly skilled manipulator with one agenda which is to cause trouble for the mainstream parties. Alec Salmond was another.
 

shmmeee

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According to the polls and a lot of political speculators Nigel is on the march big time !!
Sunak aka Will off the inbetweeners and SIR Keir are not cutting the mustard with the working classes 🤷‍♂️

Im not sure taking a few percentage points off the Tories is “on the march big time” lmao

Big “Green surge” vibes.
 

David O'Day

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According to the polls and a lot of political speculators Nigel is on the march big time !!
Sunak aka Will off the inbetweeners and SIR Keir are not cutting the mustard with the working classes 🤷‍♂️
Weird how they only show a few points more and that Labour are still massively ahead across all demographics apart from the over 75s
 

Sick Boy

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What is it the crazies say? “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”?


Pretty sure most people in Italy have houses passed down to them so renting is temporary. There’s not the need to sell the property to fund care as laws make families responsible for the care of relatives.
 

chiefdave

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What is it the crazies say? “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”?


I don't think not owning your home is particularly a huge problem if you live somewhere that renting is the norm. The issue is how much you're paying to rent, the quality of the accommodation and what protection you have as a tenant.

Also impacts on pension requirements. You can't add a bit monthly cost on for people until the day they die when at present we work on the basis that the vast majority of pensioners will have no housing costs.
 

Skybluekyle

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I don't think not owning your home is particularly a huge problem if you live somewhere that renting is the norm. The issue is how much you're paying to rent, the quality of the accommodation and what protection you have as a tenant.

Also impacts on pension requirements. You can't add a bit monthly cost on for people until the day they die when at present we work on the basis that the vast majority of pensioners will have no housing costs.
Nail on the head.

When you see you are renting at a price, sometimes even higher, than some with a mortgage, it's hard not to feel like you're pissing money down the drain.

Renting is fine in the short term, with the long term plan being to earn enough monthly and for a deposit, to buy a house, but the cost of living and rent, it's a perfect storm for a hostile environment for new home owners.
 

chiefdave

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When you see you are renting at a price, sometimes even higher, than some with a mortgage, it's hard not to feel like you're pissing money down the drain.
I moved from renting a house in a piss poor condition to a mortgaged property in the same road. The mortgage was half the rent.

Even if you assume the rent on my old place hasn't gone up in the last few years when I renew my mortgage even at the much higher rates now it will still be less than I was paying in rent.

I struggled to get a mortgage as I kept being told the monthly payments were unaffordable :rolleyes:

Edit: also worth adding I live in an area with zero student lets as they aren't suitable properties but it still took me over a year to find somewhere as the second anywhere came on the market it went to buy to let purchasers who would buy without even viewing. You can walk round where I live and pretty much work out which houses are owned and which are rented by the lack of basic maintenance on the rental properties.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Maybe the play “debating” they do at Oxbridge. Not actual debate if you want to be enlightened and actually test people’s ideas.
I moved from renting a house in a piss poor condition to a mortgaged property in the same road. The mortgage was half the rent.

Even if you assume the rent on my old place hasn't gone up in the last few years when I renew my mortgage even at the much higher rates now it will still be less than I was paying in rent.

I struggled to get a mortgage as I kept being told the monthly payments were unaffordable :rolleyes:

Edit: also worth adding I live in an area with zero student lets as they aren't suitable properties but it still took me over a year to find somewhere as the second anywhere came on the market it went to buy to let purchasers who would buy without even viewing. You can walk round where I live and pretty much work out which houses are owned and which are rented by the lack of basic maintenance on the rental properties.

Housing is a massive issue in the UK. My deposit for a house when I buy will be more than the property my mum bought in the mid-nineties. She worked at a pub and was a single parent.

Single-income middle class professionals can barely get on the property ladder, let alone people like my mum back then.

Even if Labour build 300,000 houses per year that they say they will, it’s still not enough to meet the growing demands. Bringing in top-down targets is what the Tories have tried and failed to meet targets.
 

clint van damme

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Housing is a massive issue in the UK. My deposit for a house when I buy will be more than the property my mum bought in the mid-nineties. She worked at a pub and was a single parent.

Single-income middle class professionals can barely get on the property ladder, let alone people like my mum back then.

Even if Labour build 300,000 houses per year that they say they will, it’s still not enough to meet the growing demands. Bringing in top-down targets is what the Tories have tried and failed to meet targets.

I heard the shadow housing minister on the radio today talking about how Labour is going to set about sorting the housing crisis.

One thing he didn't mention was House builders selling large swathes of new developments to large letting companies.
Surely that practice has to be ended if any progress is going to be made on this problem?
 

Ashdown

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Housing is a massive issue in the UK. My deposit for a house when I buy will be more than the property my mum bought in the mid-nineties. She worked at a pub and was a single parent.

Single-income middle class professionals can barely get on the property ladder, let alone people like my mum back then.

Even if Labour build 300,000 houses per year that they say they will, it’s still not enough to meet the growing demands. Bringing in top-down targets is what the Tories have tried and failed to meet targets.
300,000 more poorly built rabbit hutches with barely any garden …..dug out on the green belt or flood plains , destroying yet more nature and bio diversity. Marvellous 🙄
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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