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David O'Day

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Two of the Coventry ones were pretty close last time! It's also a new MP in the other constituency.

Any other time it'd be a time to look with interest what happens. As it is, it's a kind of referendum oj the job the two new MPs have done isn't it, and if they can increase their margin of victory to the more traditional level seen around those parts.
To be fair it's doubtful they'll be close this time. The voting in council and mayoral elections has returned to pre 2019 election levels.
 

David O'Day

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Going to enjoy all the 'not much love for Labour/Starmer' stuff as they cruise to about a million seats
I never got that argument, surely it's worse for you if you are that unpopular people will vote for someone they don't like just to get rid of you.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Two of the Coventry ones were pretty close last time! It's also a new MP in the other constituency.

Any other time it'd be a time to look with interest what happens. As it is, it's a kind of referendum oj the job the two new MPs have done isn't it, and if they can increase their margin of victory to the more traditional level seen around those parts.
I think it was closer last time because it was a change of MP. Now they're incumbent and the Tories are massively unpopualar i think the seats should be won relatively comfortably. But I did vote tactically just in case.
 
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Nuneaton used to be didn’t it? Polling I saw put Labour and Tories neck and neck so wouldn’t be surprised.
It's always been a seat with a stereotypical spread of voters, and tends to generally reflect the overall vote. That seat's gained Atherstone too.
 
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Anyway, be vaguely interested how my seat goes. It tends to be Tory and nowt but Tory, we've moved constituencies into yet another Tory and nowt but Tory seat! The MP's stood down though and they've parachuted in some bloke in from Yorkshire who was going to lose his seat, so we'll see how that goes. Even on the voting slip it has (address in Leeds) where all the others are local, so he stands out a bit.

Doubt it'll be enough to get rid, but might be tighter than it ought to be.
 

Liquid Gold

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Going to put my little x in the Green box. Could be Labour's only loss tonight.

I can't wait to see the faces of some of the cunts losing their seats.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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And we still aren’t talking about what fundamentally matters

womens only spaces??
Immigration?

What about cost of living
Housing and homelessness
Investment in society
Education

staples of our society
Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.
 

shmmeee

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I'm not going to enjoy it when it dawns on people we're getting more austerity unless we magic some growth from somewhere.

The economy can’t be as bad as the last 14 years, the last 8 especially. It doesn’t need sweeping reform it needs basic competence. We are so far off other countries in basic stuff, all a new govt has to do is basic tried and tested developing country economic strategy stuff and we’re laughing.

Growth stopped the day the Tories took power.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.
But if people actually paid attention they'd know Reform are excluding health and social care workers from their targets. Who make up a huge number of immigrants. So in fact they would do very little to change anything, just treat them more like shit.
 

shmmeee

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Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.

Flip flop. Numbers again. I thought it was about the message of illegal immigration?

I agree on Denmark though. A template for how to handle the far right.
 

shmmeee

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But if people actually paid attention they'd know Reform are excluding health and social care workers from their targets. Who make up a huge number of immigrants. So in fact they would do very little to change anything, just treat them more like shit.

Like Brexit, Reform is about tax cuts for Farage and his mates and nothing else.
 

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