Doncaster match ratings (1 Viewer)

Hello fellow sufferers - regular reader here, provoked into posting by a rare sighting of our heroes in the flesh (I live up north). It says it all really that I left after 75 mins, the first game I've left early for many years, so if anyone did anything amazing in the last 15 minutes I didn't take it into account.

Ratings: Donny away - easy access, easy parking, affable stewards decent view = in principle a very reasonable outing. However:


Alsop 5 - seemed gormless but blameless for the goals from where we were at the other end. Had no real saves to make. Doesn't command his box, however.

Pennington 1 - I have seen several hundred City games, and that was in my top ten of the all time worst individual performances I have ever witnessed. To blame for at least one if not both goals, skinned for fun by their good winger, offered nothing coming forward. Is not in any sense a wing-back, in a side already dismally devoid of width, and too slow to overlap or even cover. Why on earth is he playing ahead of one of our own?

Haynes 6 - a worthwhile performance, with some useful interceptions and crosses. Seemed to lack confidence when he did get forward, but all the trouble came down the other side.

Webster 3 - doesn't command, slows everything down to his (lack of) pace. Waves his arms at corners while losing his man. Manager's pet.

Martin 4 - better than Webster, and not helped by having to cover Pennington. Unconvincing when anyone ran at him though.

Finch 3 - I didn't see him do anything constructive, or, to be fair, stupid; I don't want to slate a kid, but invisible is not good.

Fleck 4 - return of sideways Sammy; caught in possession frequently, or trapped in the invisible centre circle force field that somehow makes man and/or ball go backwards from our midfield. Gets a point for barrelling across to bale out Pennington in the second half - thus proving that the winger wasn't that quick, but Pennington impossibly slow.

Barton 3 - in theory I warm to Barton's apologetic air of mild bemusement at what he's doing there, and he can pass, but again he tended to slow everything down and look for the easy option, and he should surely have some idea of how to tackle; a bollard would be as effective when he's in retreat.

O'Brien 4 - started brightly, hit one potshot over the bar, then wasted a clear chance in similar fashion, and faded fast. Did keep showing for the ball, even so, and even tried to find Madine occasionally instead of going crabwise.

Maddison 5 - another who started brightly; quick feet is good, falling over on them too often less so. I couldn't tell for the penalty claim, but he did go down with a flourish, which can't have helped. The one player who looked like he might create something - and it's credit to him, but a damning indictment of the lack of leaders in the side that he seemed to commandeer the set pieces. Didn't read Madine very well, however.

Madine 7 - kept trying in his thankless role, holding the ball up well, muscling the defenders, and getting off a number of useful flicks and touches to the invisible man, because no-one was ever close enough (Haynes did try). Not his fault the service is so poor.

Subs: should have been Willis for Pennington and Jackson/Nouble for Finch at H-T. By the time they were brought on, it was way too late regardless of the sendings-off.

The ref: did us no favours, but it would be an easy cop-out to blame him rather than:

Pressley 0 - he walks the walk and talks the talk - and so pleases the local radio and print media - but on this evidence he is clueless: sets up a 4-5-1 with no width whatever, fails to sub a man having a very obvious nightmare, and changes it way too late. No doubt he'll blame the ref, the pitch, or the phases of the moon, and talk about the Coventry way, which, whatever it might be, needs changing, as we all know. He needs to look in the mirror, or take his sterile, passive, one-paced football somewhere else.
 

Steve.B50

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Not sure I could give more than a 4 to any player, generally wa waste of £23 today and the trip home was a nightmare, than heavens for the company.
 

wingy

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Not sure I could give more than a 4 to any player, generally wa waste of £23 today and the trip home was a nightmare, than heavens for the company.

Bit of a white out wasn't It and my drivers sided wiper wasn't up to It ,then those egits trying to go 5mph faster down the outside lane clearing two inches of Slush all over my screen .

Only had the bloody thing washed yesterday.
 

malkitccfc

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Terrible. Every single player deserves a 1. Pathetic. Waste of a day. Just glad to get home in one piece after that snowstorm on the m1!
 

pusbccfc

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Allsop 5 - Let in two, what else can I say.

Pennington 2 - I've watched people dramatically overrate this guy for weeks, he is absolutely woeful. Going forward is painful to watch with him, he has zero pace and no skill, two vital attributes needed for an attacking full back.
Today defensively he was really poor. Time for Willis to return Sunday.

Webster - 5 no comments.

Martin - 5 no comments.

Haynes - 4 The most frustrating player in the team for me. Unlike Pennington this lad has the pace and skill to beat any full back in this league, but he's petrified of beating a man.

Finch 3 - looked good in his first few games, he now looks out of his depth.

Barton 5 - Needs to get stuck in more.

Fleck 4 - Continued to be shit just like he has been all season.

Jim O'Brien 2 - Absolutely abysmal. His poor form is a worry. He cannot cross and his shooting today was laughable.

Maddison 4 - Tried but was up against a few brutes. Received little protection from the referee and should have been awarded a penalty. Unlucky to be sent off, but will have learnt lessons about this league and it's referees.

Madine 6 - I feel for him. Whenever he receives the ball he shows so much class, but he cannot do it alone.


The fans 10 - 2-0 down and singing throughout.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Allsop 5 - Let in two, what else can I say.

Pennington 2 - I've watched people dramatically overrate this guy for weeks, he is absolutely woeful. Going forward is painful to watch with him, he has zero pace and no skill, two vital attributes needed for an attacking full back.
Today defensively he was really poor. Time for Willis to return Sunday.

Webster - 5 no comments.

Martin - 5 no comments.

Haynes - 4 The most frustrating player in the team for me. Unlike Pennington this lad has the pace and skill to beat any full back in this league, but he's petrified of beating a man.

Finch 3 - looked good in his first few games, he now looks out of his depth.

Barton 5 - Needs to get stuck in more.

Fleck 4 - Continued to be shit just like he has been all season.

Jim O'Brien 2 - Absolutely abysmal. His poor form is a worry. He cannot cross and his shooting today was laughable.

Maddison 4 - Tried but was up against a few brutes. Received little protection from the referee and should have been awarded a penalty. Unlucky to be sent off, but will have learnt lessons about this league and it's referees.

Madine 6 - I feel for him. Whenever he receives the ball he shows so much class, but he cannot do it alone.


The fans 10 - 2-0 down and singing throughout.

tbh I don't really rate Willis at full back, uncomfortable going forward and has been at the Martin Cranie school of defending of constantly back tracking an running backwards when defending.

Haynes has ability but looks to be lacking confidence, the run he did last week to nearly win the penalty was brilliant but he needs to do that 5/6/7 times a match and not once every 5/6/7 games.

Fleck and Barton have been crap for most of their time here, Fleck had a decent 3 month spell last year and thats it in 2 1/2 years.

O'Brien has been crap mostly, supposed to be Bakers replacement but Baker is much better and this is coming from someone who thought it may be time for Baker to move on.

Pressley has alienated probably two of our better players in Johnson and Nouble and that says it all for me, Nouble will be gone in January and I'd be surprised if Reda is here next season. May even ship him out sooner.
 

stupot07

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tbh I don't really rate Willis at full back, uncomfortable going forward and has been at the Martin Cranie school of defending of constantly back tracking an running backwards when defending.

Haynes has ability but looks to be lacking confidence, the run he did last week to nearly win the penalty was brilliant but he needs to do that 5/6/7 times a match and not once every 5/6/7 games.

Fleck and Barton have been crap for most of their time here, Fleck had a decent 3 month spell last year and thats it in 2 1/2 years.

O'Brien has been crap mostly, supposed to be Bakers replacement but Baker is much better and this is coming from someone who thought it may be time for Baker to move on.

Pressley has alienated probably two of our better players in Johnson and Nouble and that says it all for me, Nouble will be gone in January and I'd be surprised if Reda is here next season. May even ship him out sooner.

And even Nouble's a bit crap and far too inconsistent, he's probably had just 1 good 45 minutes in 14 games.


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pusbccfc

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And even Nouble's a bit crap and far too inconsistent, he's probably had just 1 good 45 minutes in 14 games.


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There is more chance of him scoring than Madine, though. Or even, there is more chance of Madine scoring when he is on.
 

stupot07

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There is more chance of him scoring than Madine, though. Or even, there is more chance of Madine scoring when he is on.

Is there? He and Madine just can't play up top together, doesn't particularly work or effective. They both need someone playing off them, and have looked best with someone like jackson running off them. and if it's the choice between the 2, I'd much rather have Madine, at least you know you'll get a decent performance week in week out. To be honest I can't wait for him to leave in Jan and take his enigma with him.


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Allsop 5 Nothing to do in the match. No blame on him for the goals
Pennington 4 The only man who made runs. Work to do at the abck but wasn't helped by O'Brien's absence on the right. Pen had no support at all
Webster 2 Get him gone. He's slow, doesnt use his strength or height, waste of a player
Martin 4 Havent noticed him in any of the last 4 games. Either he's turned invisible or he isnt doing anything
Haynes 6 Good in the 2nd half. Made attacking runs and was the only player who looked like setting up a goal
O'Brien -1,000,000 - WHERE THE FUCK WAS HE? SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE RIGHT WING AND WAS NOWHERE TO BE FUCKING FOUND! EVEN MADDISON WAS TELLING HIM TO GET TO THE RIGHT. He left us in the shit for the 2nd goal and as far as im concerned, he should be dropped for Sunday. O'Brien thinks cus he's captain he can do whatever he wants. Wrongo. Give the armband back to Reda. Rant over.
Barton 5 Again looked like he was one of few players who looked interested. Those 2 yellow cards proved that, Sloppy challenges but he went for it, which is more than any of the other midfielders did
Fleck 2 Webster, take him back to Scotland with you. Honestly don't see what he brings
Finch 2 Created nothing. He has potential but we're yet to see it
Maddison 5 This kid has a bright future. Always making attacking runs, fast feet and very skilful. Was denied a stone wall penalty which im sure SP used as an excuse
Madine 4 Why play him as a lone striker? He doesn't like it, we don't like it, it doesn't suit him and it doesn't suit the team
 

Ashdown

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I was contemplating going tomorrow but reading all this it might just raise my blood pressure and do me for £40.
 

skybluejelly

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Bang on. Fucking awful game mate. You did well in avoiding it. Its a close second to Tranmere in my shit away days list
... Have you traveled into the future .. If you know the result of tomorrow's game can you let me know ( apart from it it being a dull boring affair)
 

LilleSkyBlue

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First game I'd been to since Orient away in October 2012. I enjoyed the atmosphere in the concourse and at the beginning of the game. Their fans were either abysmal or just inaudible from our end. Doncaster were absolutely atrocious, except perhaps the keen running of Forrester and the strength of Theo Robinson, who seemed to carry some kind of menace to him without ever really doing anything. Guess that's the level we're at now, in Division 3.


Allsopp: 5 - nothing obvious to blame him for, hard to see whether he was at fault for their goals.
Pennington: 3 - more or less solid but offered zero threat down the right, like a horse refusing a jump, and seemed involved in allowing their second goal to happen so easily.
Martin: 5 - all right, presumably. Didn't really notice him.
Webster: 4 - headed and punted it away from danger a lot but I noticed it was definitely just any old where. Doesn't look as commanding as I had imagined.
Haynes: 6 - like Pennington, checked back and passed behind him 75% of the time, which was infuriating. Didn't realise he was so totally one-footed, either. A couple of threatening runs though and looked energetic.
O'Brien: 5 - really involved early on in our 15-minute spell. Twisty, wiry and committed but blazed over when we needed a finish and never got anywhere near the right wing.
Barton: 4 - offered no attacking threat at all. Endless interpassing with the other midfielders, but backwards or sideways. Could maybe afford him if he was the only midfielder doing this, but... thay all did. Plus got himself sent off for useless fouling, in the name of all that is holy, he's hardly Roy Keane.
Finch: 3 - hardly noticed him. Part of the anti-dynamic tht sucked the attacking intent out of our play. Him or Barton or Fleck, but Chist, not all three.
Fleck: 4 - saw him giving the ball away a lot, barrelling around unthreateningly and wearing colourful boots. Slightly less anonymous than Finch.
Maddison: 6 - a midfielder-plus, always looking to get forwards and twist away from markers into space. Some good passes. Looked like a clear penalty to me, too. Got whacked, got up, got on with it. The only player seemingly aware of the need to link up with the forwards.
Madine: 6 - won loads in the air, headed and chested down for teammates, but teammates came there none. He looked strong, capable and aware but not super-dangerous either.

Jackson: 4 - came on lateish, did nothing.
Nouble: 4 - came on lateish, did nothing (except give away a dangerous free kick on the edge of the box, was it him?)

Overall, a shambles. It was, as the chant that went up at the end had it, embarrassing. There doesn't seem to be any ability to move the ball forwards and create chances, and even if we did, I can't see who'd score them. Madine, maybe? Pity we didn't sign a few strikers in the summer. :) The ball just goes round and round the midfielders and defenders until it's lost again. Obvious question: why is this still happening after 22 matches? I've been reading similar criticisms for months now.

Conclusion: a poor match in which we never looked like scoring. Nor truthfully did Donny, though they at least had the modicum of gumption about them to construct a couple of attacks. Good support quenched by innocuous performance on the pitch, incredibly proud to be Sky Blue, back to internet supporting from France after the holidays.
 
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