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lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
In a nutshell, exactly why my posting frequency has dropped off a cliff.

This thread (and virtually every thread recently) reminds me of the clusterfuck GMK became before the mass exodus to here. Just an echo chamber for five or six people.

*awaits hilarious council reference*

The mass exodus to here was so that most could try and make themselves reborn "Anti-Sisu" protesters after being the most evangelical about them previously.

Isn't that right shmmee?

shmmeee · Jan 21, 2015

These are not constructive posts. They add nothing to the debate and instead trry and divert the thread to their own ends. It is the dictionary definition of trolling a thread and in any well run forum is a bannable offence.

covcity4life said:
council paying you overtime?

torchomatic said:
Not trying to "direct fan focus from CCC" are you?

This is a reasonable response:

duffer said:
With respect OSB, we've lost any realistic chance of ever owning our own ground, or at least getting access to enough funding from it.

I don't think anyone has lost focus on what a crap set of owners we've got - but one day they'll be gone. In the meantime, we still won't have our own ground, or if we do it may well not be in Coventry.

I'm not surprised that that's getting a lot of interest, or that people want to comment on some of the remarkable stuff that's come out of the council recently regarding ACL. It doesn't mean that we're not worried about how crap the team is though.

In other words, I don't think that the Council selling to Wasps was an attempt by SISU to draw attention away from their manifold failings.

skybluetony176 · Jan 21, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
The mass exodus to here was so that most could try and make themselves reborn "Anti-Sisu" protesters after being the most evangelical about them previously.

Isn't that right shmmee?

Oh, you mean people who have seen the error of their ways

shmmeee · Jan 21, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
The mass exodus to here was so that most could try and make themselves reborn "Anti-Sisu" protesters after being the most evangelical about them previously.

Isn't that right shmmee?

No. It was down to the server dying. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

Edit: go on I'll bite

I (and others) supported what was seen as the Ranson vision (buy young players, build a team, get to the Prem). You can argue (and you will) about whether Ranson's vision was one worth supporting, but what you can't argue is that there was a definite shift in strategy between Ranson and Delieu. It was this shift (make the club break even, reduce costs at all costs) that I (and many others) did not support.

Normal people change their mind when the facts change. You sound like a retarded political commentator trying to make out that they don't. You however, have stuck to your anti-council rants from the start, gleefully telling everyone that all sorts of dodgy dealings would come out (along with fernando and Grendel and others) in the JR, and have been proven wrong time and time and time again. Yet despite this evidence you still hang off every Les Reid tweet in the hope that you can find one scrap of proof that you were right, despite the weight of evidence already being well against you.

Anyway, back on topic: this shit is exactly what OP is talking about. It's not useful and it gets us nowhere. It's intellectually dishonest trolling and nothing more.

Second edit: also your timing is well off. I was supporting Sisu's stance WRT the Ricoh all the way up until the move to Northampton, including on this site. I remember arguing passionately with my Dad about whether the threat to leave was real or not (I didn't think they'd be that stupid). The move to Northampton showed where the club's loyalties lie and it's not with the fans.

lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
No. It was down to the server dying. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

So, the server is dying here then?

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
These are not constructive posts. They add nothing to the debate and instead trry and divert the thread to their own ends. It is the dictionary definition of trolling a thread and in any well run forum is a bannable offence.

You'd like people banned for simple, non-offensive remarks like those? Really?

shmmeee · Jan 21, 2015

Samo said:
shmmeee said:

These are not constructive posts. They add nothing to the debate and instead trry and divert the thread to their own ends. It is the dictionary definition of trolling a thread and in any well run forum is a bannable offence.

You'd like people banned for simple, non-offensive remarks like those? Really?

Click to expand...

I'd the forum well moderated. Read my first link. Offense is not the only thing that deserves banning in a well run onlnie community. Those posts are textbook trolling, and trolling is a bannable offence for a very good reason. People with a lot more exerience than you or I in running online communities accept these are important rules for a valid online discussion.

shmmeee · Jan 21, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
So, the server is dying here then?

Not sure if actually illiterate or just pretending for effect...

(I'll clarify incase it's the first one) The mass exodus was due to the server going. Before that (unrelated) GMK had become a clusterfuck similar to the way this site is heading)

torchomatic · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
Grow the fuck up. It's a different sport and they are a Coventry team now, whether you like it or not.

You sound like a kid that's had to share his toy.

I think you'll have to hand yourself in. Textbook trolling and abusive behaviour.

shmmeee said:
I'd the forum well moderated. Read my first link. Offense is not the only thing that deserves banning in a well run onlnie community. Those posts are textbook trolling, and trolling is a bannable offence for a very good reason. People with a lot more exerience than you or I in running online communities accept these are important rules for a valid online discussion.

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
I'd the forum well moderated. Read my first link. Offense is not the only thing that deserves banning in a well run onlnie community. Those posts are textbook trolling, and trolling is a bannable offence for a very good reason. People with a lot more exerience than you or I in running online communities accept these are important rules for a valid online discussion.

In reality, if people were banned for that there would be no forum. It's interesting that you've picked examples opposed to your own views, do you think your side of the debate are better behaved? I don't agree that those are examples of trolling at all, I'd say you would need to get into the offensive/bullying area to be called trolling. By your standards 95% of this site is trolling.

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
Not sure if actually illiterate or just pretending for effect..

(I'll clarify incase it's the first one) The mass exodus was due to the server going. Before that (unrelated) GMK had become a clusterfuck similar to the way this site is heading)

Now that is much more like trolling. You should be banned!

olderskyblue · Jan 21, 2015

torchomatic said:
I think you'll have to hand yourself in. Textbook trolling and abusive behaviour.

He's got you there Shmmeee, the "keep everyone's posts in a spreadsheet for easy recall when required" police have won again.

* or the "people who can use the search facility better than me" police
* or the "people who have better memories than me" police

lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
Not sure if actually illiterate or just pretending for effect...

(I'll clarify incase it's the first one) The mass exodus was due to the server going. Before that (unrelated) GMK had become a clusterfuck similar to the way this site is heading)

Wasn't the "clusterfuck" that GMK became was because it was perceived as Anti-Sisu mostly?

Not true though, the massive majority were pro-Sisu, but just a few against them would make paranoids think it was anti-Sisu entirely.

There is nobody Pro-Sisu on here(can discount RFC, as he's a nutcase), only a few who are a bit more balanced than the majority, yet paranoids think it's full of Pro-Sisu anti Council people.

I expect you can probably name around 10, maybe even push it up to 20 people in that more balanced camp.

How many members are there of this site?

lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

olderskyblue said:
He's got you there Shmmeee, the "keep everyone's posts in a spreadsheet for easy recall when required" police have won again.

* or the "people who can use the search facility better than me" police
* or the "people who have better memories than me" police

To be fair, he started the whole thing with quotes from people where he disagreed with the tenor of the response.

Maybe we should all start posting in a Jane Austen style.

In fact that would be quite a good idea.

Otis · Jan 21, 2015

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Jesus Christ.....They've had over 7 years to learn how to spell a 4 letter word.....Un-fucking-believable.

Maybe the person who wrote that has a stutter.

Nick · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
I'd the forum well moderated. Read my first link. Offense is not the only thing that deserves banning in a well run onlnie community. Those posts are textbook trolling, and trolling is a bannable offence for a very good reason. People with a lot more exerience than you or I in running online communities accept these are important rules for a valid online discussion.

In which case you would have been banned a long time ago for your meltdown rants.

You know for a fact as soon as we start moderating you would be right up there whinging about freedom of speech and censorship. The moment anybody you agreed with got banned you would be going off on one, italia for example who loves a troll.

Oh all forums don't allow duplicate accounts to be made to come on and have a rant, you would be banned for that too....

Id get off the high horse, as if this was a strictly moderated forum like you wish for you would have been long gone. Unless you mean that only people you disagree with or don't like should be banned?

That stinks of somebody who walks around hitting people then cries and demands somebody gets told off if they get hit back.

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

Nick said:
In which case you would have been banned a long time ago for your meltdown rants.

You know for a fact as soon as we start moderating you would be right up there whinging about freedom of speech and censorship. The moment anybody you agreed with got banned you would be going off on one, italia for example who loves a troll.

Nick, please take my name out of that bubble, I don't want anyone thinking that drivel is mine,

Otis · Jan 21, 2015

AndreasB said:
You get "connected" to a club by going to see the team play not by wishing it was all different on a message board. My 10 year old needs a bit of coercion to come along at the moment but that is long term building his loyalty and habit. That is as important I think as any protesting or sitting at home NOPMing.

Besides, he will then feel the same amount of elation we loyal fans all will when finally the corner turns.

But also in turn it can have the reverse effect.

You can easily get disconected from a club by a lack of effort from the team, a not bothered attitude, incredibly poor fare served up, negative football, depressing air about the place, zero entertainment and the team forever losing.

You can attend games and very much feel connected, but in turn the reverse is always very true and that is what is happening for many, many fans at the moment.

I used to be so excited about going to games and it very much used to be the highlight of my week. Now I glance at the fixtures and just give a meh and a shoulder shrug.

Very hard for most fans to feel in anyway connected at the moment.

Covcraig@bury · Jan 21, 2015

AndreasB said:
Important game on the 31st at the Ricoh though. I think you would be better going to to this game instead.

NOPM........ if everyone took a stance they would be gone. I am sure there is someone ready to jump in and take us over , if not I wont be arsed . Its only pub football we are playing anyway !!!!!

Nick · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
NOPM........ if everyone took a stance they would be gone. I am sure there is someone ready to jump in and take us over , if not I wont be arsed . Its only pub football we are playing anyway !!!!!

Yeah nice! That's probably why nobody listens to you when you go on and on.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 21, 2015

shmmeee said:
I'd the forum well moderated. Read my first link. Offense is not the only thing that deserves banning in a well run onlnie community. Those posts are textbook trolling, and trolling is a bannable offence for a very good reason. People with a lot more exerience than you or I in running online communities accept these are important rules for a valid online discussion.

There would be nobody left on this forum if you banned people for that or similar comments.

lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

Nick said:
Oh all forums don't allow duplicate accounts, you would be banned for that too....

Id get off the high horse

To be fair, those with multiple personalities should be allowed a little leeway.

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
To be fair, those with multiple personalities should be allowed a little leeway.

Yes we should

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
To be fair, those with multiple personalities should be allowed a little leeway.

No we shouldn't

Covcraig@bury · Jan 21, 2015

Nick said:
Yeah nice! That's probably why nobody listens to you when you go on and on.

And that's why we still have Sisu at the helm and no investment just debt because of Lilly livered liberals like yourself who sit on the fence and can't make your mind up !!! TiT

torchomatic · Jan 21, 2015

I'm reporting you to Shmmeee.

Covcraig@bury said:
And that's why we still have Sisu at the helm and no investment just debt because of Lilly livered liberals like yourself who sit on the fence and can't make your mind up !!! TiT

Nick · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
And that's why we still have Sisu at the helm and no investment just debt because of Lilly livered liberals like yourself who sit on the fence and can't make your mind up !!! TiT

Or some gobby bloke who doesn't actually know what they are yelling about and as you just said, don't care either. Anything to get angry and have a whinge about something though eh?

I can make my own mind up, obviously where you struggle a bit.

I go to watch my football team, I also care about my football team. You have just said you don't, so you obviously just like being a bit of an angry shouty frothy mouthed bore.

torchomatic · Jan 21, 2015

And I reporting you to Shmmeee.

Nick said:
Or some gobby bloke who doesn't actually know what they are yelling about and as you just said, don't care either. Anything to get angry and have a whinge about something though eh?

I can make my own mind up, obviously where you struggle a bit.

I go to watch my football team, I also care about my football team. You have just said you don't, so you obviously just like being a bit of an angry shouty frothy mouthed bore.

Covcraig@bury · Jan 21, 2015

Nick said:
Or some gobby bloke who doesn't actually know what they are yelling about and as you just said, don't care either. Anything to get angry and have a whinge about something though eh?

I can make my own mind up, obviously where you struggle a bit.

I go to watch my football team, I also care about my football team. You have just said you don't, so you obviously just like being a bit of an angry shouty frothy mouthed bore.

What are you his puppet master ! Can he not answer for himself ? You arse wipe

Monners · Jan 21, 2015

For what it is worth, I tend to agree with the points made by Otis/OSB (pretty much always been my view re the protagonists and debating issues).

Sorry for interrupting the usual decent into the twoing and froing for the cerebrally challenged. Please do carry on.

Nick · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
What are you his puppet master ! Can he not answer for himself ? You arse wipe

I did answer for myself?

hill83 · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
What are you his puppet master ! Can he not answer for himself ? You arse wipe

Can't even see who's quoting who through your tears.

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
What are you his puppet master ! Can he not answer for himself ? You arse wipe

Oh dear, are you a little confused?

Samo · Jan 21, 2015

Covcraig@bury said:
What are you his puppet master ! Can he not answer for himself ? You arse wipe

Shmmeee, Shmmeee, tell him!

lordsummerisle · Jan 21, 2015

Samo said:
Oh dear, are you a little confused?

Quoting has gone a bit mad on here this afternoon.

This must be how skybluekid sees the World.

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