Grendel
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He didn't actually put any money in for the stadium
That’s not how property deals work. Just because you can raise fund to buy a stadium doesn’t mean you can to buy Sergio Costalot for £5m.
The main takeaways for me were:So what did he actually say?
Thankfully, Robins’ stock is v high with Doug King and the fans so there’ll be a lot of patience with any setbacks next season - should it come to that.Charlton are probably the best example. A long serving manager who sold one to buy two or three and improve the club as a whole. Took them time to get established, but they did. All went wrong when said manager left mind you, so best stick with Robins!
I do fear that expectation may have been overly raised - we'll see. One 'perk' of us falling down the leagues is we lost the sense of entitlement we seemed to have gained, became a lot more grounded.Thankfully, Robins’ stock is v high with Doug King and the fans so there’ll be a lot of patience with any setbacks next season - should it come to that.
I don’t think Robins will leave either. We’re very clearly a good fit for one another. Looking at Nathan Jones and Ainsworth who have been on similar journeys, his best bet is to stay put.
There was a sense of ‘we shouldn’t be here’ on Saturday. Whereas when we went down to L1 it was v typical for people to say how shit the league was (it is) and that we should be competing for the Prem. On no basis whatsoever.I do fear that expectation may have been overly raised - we'll see. One 'perk' of us falling down the leagues is we lost the sense of entitlement we seemed to have gained, became a lot more grounded.
Where ? To Newcastle, wouldn’t blame him if he did.Not this again
vik has gone mate
Gus will follow
The impression for me is we’re not being hamstrung like we have been for the last few years.Think some fans are in for a rude awakening and will be shocked as to how limited our spending power actually is - People seemed to be under the impression we’ve been taken over by an oligarch
It’s clear Doug has a strategy in place and Robins has brought into it, he’s committed the next 4 years to us so he must be on board - Whether people want to buy into it is their prerogative I guess
Is it reasonable to ask the guy to put £10m into squad investment when he's just bought the club for who knows how many million?
I would much rather spend sensibly than for the sake of it. Robins aint the manager to do that and King doesn't strike me as the kind of owner to do that. Expectations are rightly high after this season but some fans will need grounding after last season Next season will be just as hard as the last
We really don't know how wealthy he is. Is it reasonable to ask the guy to put £10m into squad investment when he's just bought the club for who knows how many million?
or no millions at allWe really don't know how wealthy he is. Is it reasonable to ask the guy to put £10m into squad investment when he's just bought the club for who knows how many million?
Could he be paying the interest on the Sisu loans which is the extra Robins has to spend, and the reason for the "initially debt free" commentsDoubt he paid anything for the club frankly
Of course you’d expect him to - we lose £4m a year so he’d better be putting money in
That’s not how property deals work. Just because you can raise fund to buy a stadium doesn’t mean you can to buy Sergio Costalot for £5m.
It's a fine balance. Yes, we need to spend sensibly, but similarly we need to do well, otherwise those who "believe" after the success of 22/23 will drift off again. Then, it'll be back to the core of 10/15K again. We can't afford to do that.
So has he changed already from promotion within 5 years, to now saying playoffs within 5 years?The main takeaways for me were:
- Denounced racist abuse of Dabo and said he’d work with EFL/authorities
- 3-5 seasons to be in the playoffs
- Club needs to raise more revenue which we’re trying to do with a reference to the Premier League package
I think that’s it. Jim White and Simon Jordan spoke about Mel Morris at Derby and made a parallel between King and Jordan when he was at Palace. More generally spoke about how well run clubs can punch above their weight i.e. Luton and Cov.
The segment seemed to be transitioning to Luton and their success story and then I stopped listening!
Think he said he expects us to be in the play off at least 3 times in the next 5 yearsSo has he changed already from promotion within 5 years, to now saying playoffs within 5 years?
Or am I getting his words mixed up
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He said what you would expect him to say …. Parachute payments distort the league, we need more revenue to close the gap, we invested early in his tenure on recruitment and have a plan. For this window. He knows that the government white paper might accelerate the reduction in the financial gaps between clubs in the same league but knows it’s not a given and therefore will plan accordingly …..So what did he actually say?
No he has always said Playoffs.So has he changed already from promotion within 5 years, to now saying playoffs within 5 years?
Or am I getting his words mixed up
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I’ll give him time and support. but we’ll need to see where we’re at on August 31st.He said what you would expect him to say …. Parachute payments distort the league, we need more revenue to close the gap, we invested early in his tenure on recruitment and have a plan. For this window. He knows that the government white paper might accelerate the reduction in the financial gaps between clubs in the same league but knows it’s not a given and therefore will plan accordingly …..
All very sensible and measured.
Nothing alarmist or unrealistic so no idea why the silly reaction from some on here ….
The positive fan reaction to King is a little larger than you might expect at this stage of his tenure but that is due to 4 things:
The halo effect of our run to Wembley
Not selling our best players in January
Listening ti the fans over season tickets
Speaking well and with confidence
none of us know how his reign will go but I’m more confident in King than I was SISU, McGinnity, et al so let’s give him time and support.
He said what you would expect him to say …. Parachute payments distort the league, we need more revenue to close the gap, we invested early in his tenure on recruitment and have a plan. For this window. He knows that the government white paper might accelerate the reduction in the financial gaps between clubs in the same league but knows it’s not a given and therefore will plan accordingly …..
All very sensible and measured.
Nothing alarmist or unrealistic so no idea why the silly reaction from some on here ….
The positive fan reaction to King is a little larger than you might expect at this stage of his tenure but that is due to 4 things:
The halo effect of our run to Wembley
Not selling our best players in January
Listening ti the fans over season tickets
Speaking well and with confidence
none of us know how his reign will go but I’m more confident in King than I was SISU, McGinnity, et al so let’s give him time and support.
Promotion via the playoffs. Was pragmatic about challenging for autos - he made a few points about footballing governance and money filtering down from the Prem.So has he changed already from promotion within 5 years, to now saying playoffs within 5 years?
Or am I getting his words mixed up
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he actually said play offs in 3 of the next 5 years, and if we do that then we would hope to push through the door in 1 of themNo he has always said Playoffs.
How?I hear Dougs already pissing a lot of people off behind the scenes
Could be a good thing
Where have you heard that then there ain’t that many people behind the scenes are there.I hear Dougs already pissing a lot of people off behind the scenes
Could be a good thing
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