HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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You know what, I’ll be happy if we just don’t hamstring robins anymore.
You know what, I’ll be happy if we just don’t hamstring robins anymore.Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
Have to agree with this somewhat. It’s all been a quick flash in the pan attempt to make a late bid for the Arena that has ultimately failed. He hasn’t really remotely made any comments about the actual club other than we’ve won the last 4 games and he hasn’t actually met MR yet. Surely as the new prospective buyer of a football club, the first thing you do is go and greet the manager and playing staff and get a feel for the club?Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
Will you attend every game?
Not sure if this has been covered before and apologies if it has , what's stopping Mike Ashley now charging the club a much higher rent than what was agreed with wasps?
Aren't we then in a similar position as few years ago when £1.2m rent was being paid and that was unsustainable for the club hence looking elsewhere to play our football matches?
I think there’s a reason we haven’t heard anything about the team. He isn’t going to be here for long if at all in reality. Unless the EFL has approved it overnight he currently owns nothing, we don’t even know if it’s been put to the EFL. All we’ve had is a statement of intent and an interview that seems it was all about yesterday. I think in the next week we’ll possibly know if MA does have intentions on CCFC and hopefully by Xmas we’ll never have to talk about what SISU are doing/going to do again. I suspect that Doug will be forgotten about long before then.Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
Seeing as most of the debt was internal not much has changed for the business right now (as of this minute) -struggling to break even, restricted income streams etc. We might go a window without selling but doubt we'll go 2 windows.Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
Good analysis.Ceetee says:
Spending £25milion on a business that might be profitable if differently run is a valid investment.
Spending £25 million on a few players in the hope that the team might get promoted is a different level of risk.
Interesting what business model do we want with what risk
Bristol City have just reported a loss of £28.5m for 21/22 season. Down from £38.4m the previous season. They have reduced their wage bill by £5m, in that year. I think they had a wage bill in the £30m region a few years ago.
Since Steve Lansdown became Chairman, 20 years ago, they have accumulated losses of just under £200m.
They currently just above the relegation slots in the Championship.
I think I prefer our current business model, where we have control of the wages and invest in young players, who appreciate in value.
Fact is we currently in a much stronger position then Bristol, so throwing money in does not always work, look at Derby.
I think Bristol are now in a position where we were 10 years ago.
We have some excellent young players, who are capable of getting us into the PL, that have been a product of good management from the recruitment side, although they have been some failures along the way.
Will SISU want to keep the 15% though, is that the idea of selling th 85% to King. They would then be getting 15% on future profits of sales, promotion etcI think there’s a reason we haven’t heard anything about the team. He isn’t going to be here for long if at all in reality. Unless the EFL has approved it overnight he currently owns nothing, we don’t even know if it’s been put to the EFL. All we’ve had is a statement of intent and an interview that seems it was all about yesterday. I think in the next week we’ll possibly know if MA does have intentions on CCFC and hopefully by Xmas we’ll never have to talk about what SISU are doing/going to do again. I suspect that Doug will be forgotten about long before then.
Lots of clubs ran like Bristol City and Derby, at least CCFC is sort of run by only spending what they haveGood analysis.
I said before it’s a waiting game whilst a load of rival clubs eventually run out of money or their owners realise that wilting to fan pressure to spend millions on players has to stop (and they pull the plug like Derby)
Will SISU want to keep the 15% though, is that the idea of selling th 85% to King. They would then be getting 15% on future profits of sales, promotion etc
Correct. Do we think the application to transfer the 85% of the club to King has actually been submitted to the EFL? I have my doubtsAs things stand Sisu own 100%
Think we're seeing this now.Good analysis.
I said before it’s a waiting game whilst a load of rival clubs eventually run out of money or their owners realise that wilting to fan pressure to spend millions on players has to stop (and they pull the plug like Derby)
Now that is another as yet unanswered question, at the moment sisu are putting nothing in to the ccfc pot we are being told they are retaining 15% so do we assume they will now be putting in 15% how much is O to 15% towards the total running costs of the football club and why can’t they put that in now, they owe HMRC at the moment and we are in a transfer embargo, as usual there are more questions than answers.Will SISU want to keep the 15% though, is that the idea of selling th 85% to King. They would then be getting 15% on future profits of sales, promotion etc
Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
Any serious gardener needs this though
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Not had enough coffee yet today, and read that as CCFC dildo.CCFC cludo!
Not sure I like the bit about him needing to speak to Ashley to see if he's going to honour our lease. Is that less secure than we thought? Everyone has been saying we're fine as we've got a 10 year lease, let's hope there's not some change of ownership clause or anything odd like that.
If, and at the moment it's still a big if, he is genuinely taking over the club then I think you need to cut him a bit of slack. With the time the deal was done a bid for the stadium would have been the priority.Whats getting me is weve heard fuck all about his plans for the team
All been a last minute pathetic attempt at getting the arena
Will MR be given money?
You say no one needs to be sold, in that case will you hand new contracts out to the big 4?
Will you attend every game?
Will you spruce Ryton up so its not 1980s style?
You claim to have £25 Million ready to go for the arena, can you commit some of that to the playing squad for the next few seasons?
Hes just been soundbutes and pacifying statements
Seen fuck all that makes me think hes anything more than, as Slowpoke put well, the different cheek of the same arse
I think a would be buyer has to show proof of funds and a business plan going forward too exactly what that means not sure but since the Bury FC fiasco i’m sure it is more stringent. I think King will have to tell of any would be partners, now that’s interesting sisu are one 15% worth apparently who currently put nothing in and owe HMRC taxI’m sure I read the fit and proper test pretty much only disqualifies people if they’re legally disqualified from directorship by a court. In other words only if they’ve done something illegal are they likely to fail
I agree mostly chief, however, as many have said he does not own the club at the moment (EFL decision) so cut out all the bullshit interviews and wait until you are actually the owner. We Cov fans have had enough of the bullshit and subterfuge to last a lifetime. The only decision made so far is that Ashley owns the Arena, until something concrete comes through from the EFL that Doug now owns the club, then to me it's still SISU and all the baggage that comes with that PUSBIf, and at the moment it's still a big if, he is genuinely taking over the club then I think you need to cut him a bit of slack. With the time the deal was done a bid for the stadium would have been the priority.
If he'd spent day one giving interviews about the playing side and then a few days later started saying he had no chance to bid because he was concentrating on the playing side it wouldn't go down well.
But we don't know what is in that actual lease.He can’t change the lease that has already been agreed.
Personally I find it hard to believe that Doug will ever own that 85%. My gut feeling is that it was a stunt before yesterday and leverage on the price that SISU end up selling 100% of the club to MA for. I think it’s about SISU putting a stake in the ground of the value of CCFC on the premise that Doug was willing to pay 100% of the debt to own a 85% share of the club so the debt on the books must therefore be market value of CCFC, which of course it isn’t. I can’t see MA wanting to share ownership with SISU so ultimately if SISU want closure on what must surely be their worst investment in their history they’ll have to sell 100%. MA will never pay 100% of the club’s debt for the club and I doubt SISU will be seriously expecting that outcome, although nothing would surprise me with SISU.Will SISU want to keep the 15% though, is that the idea of selling th 85% to King. They would then be getting 15% on future profits of sales, promotion etc
This is on the assumption that Ashley actually wants to buy us.Personally I find it hard to believe that Doug will ever own that 85%. My gut feeling is that it was a stunt before yesterday and leverage on the price that SISU end up selling 100% of the club to MA for. I think it’s about SISU putting a stake in the ground of the value of CCFC on the premise that Doug was willing to pay 100% of the debt to own a 85% share of the club so the debt on the books must therefore be market value of CCFC, which of course it isn’t. I can’t see MA wanting to share ownership with SISU so ultimately if SISU want closure on what must surely be their worst investment in their history they’ll have to sell 100%. MA will never pay 100% of the club’s debt for the club and I doubt SISU will be seriously expecting that outcome, although nothing would surprise me with SISU.
No they don’t have to show business planI think a would be buyer has to show proof of funds and a business plan going forward too exactly what that means not sure but since the Bury FC fiasco i’m sure it is more stringent. I think King will have to tell of any would be partners, now that’s interesting sisu are one 15% worth apparently who currently put nothing in and owe HMRC tax
Personally I find it hard to believe that Doug will ever own that 85%. My gut feeling is that it was a stunt before yesterday and leverage on the price that SISU end up selling 100% of the club to MA for. I think it’s about SISU putting a stake in the ground of the value of CCFC on the premise that Doug was willing to pay 100% of the debt to own a 85% share of the club so the debt on the books must therefore be market value of CCFC, which of course it isn’t. I can’t see MA wanting to share ownership with SISU so ultimately if SISU want closure on what must surely be their worst investment in their history they’ll have to sell 100%. MA will never pay 100% of the club’s debt for the club and I doubt SISU will be seriously expecting that outcome, although nothing would surprise me with SISU.
A number of clubs split the two businesses on purpose -Crewe for exampleI don’t know enough about business to know of the benefits of having separate owners for the club and stadium.
I think a would be buyer has to show proof of funds and a business plan going forward too exactly what that means not sure but since the Bury FC fiasco i’m sure it is more stringent. I think King will have to tell of any would be partners, now that’s interesting sisu are one 15% worth apparently who currently put nothing in and owe HMRC tax
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