Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (2 Viewers)

[hamertime]

Not that it’s relevant to the here and now but “nothing in the game” - he’s played and scored in the Premier League which is more than what Godden has done

Godden has been top scorer for clubs, won leagues and got promotions. Simms has
done nothing compared to that. It does my head in when people are slagging Godden off and praising Simms.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Godden has been top scorer for clubs, won leagues and got promotions. Simms has
done nothing compared to that. It does my head in when people are slagging Godden off and praising Simms.

Yeah and he’s also 10 years older ffs.

 

[clint van damme]

It does my head in when people are slagging Godden off and praising Simms.

It's ridiculous, just as ridiculous as writing Simms off this early in his time at the club.

 

[hamertime]

It's ridiculous, just as ridiculous as writing Simms off this early in his time at the club.

No one is writing him off, every post I’ve seen is saying he’s been poor so far which he has been.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Godden has been top scorer for clubs, won leagues and got promotions. Simms has
done nothing compared to that. It does my head in when people are slagging Godden off and praising Simms.

Yes, Godden has had a good career coming from the lower leagues to where he is now, Simms is just starting his.

 

[hamertime]

Yeah and he’s also 10 years older ffs.

And? I was pointing out he’s done more than Simms in the game so a little respect is due to him.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

And? I was pointing out he’s done more than Simms in the game so a little respect is due to him.

Who isn’t respecting him?

 

[clint van damme]

No one is writing him off, every post I’ve seen is saying he’s been poor so far which he has been.

You've not being paying attention clearly.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Not that it’s relevant to the here and now but “nothing in the game” - he’s played and scored in the Premier League which is more than what Godden has done

David Rennie has played and scored in the Premier League!

I think Simms is poor myself, may improve, but can't see it.

Like others, spotted him making a couple of runs into good positions not picked up by any of our other players.

That's part of the problem, shouldn't be spotting " a couple of good runs", he should be doing it all the time, if our midfield know that he's likely to be making a run into a decent position they'll look for it.

Most of the time he's static, so they don't have the opportunity to put it into a decent space.

From what I have seen so far, he's not the type of player to create his own chances
( like many strikers), but needs a lot more movement to stretch defenders and spot spaces to run into.

Often a thankless task, can be doing it all game and not get the ball through to you, but have to think that everytime you do that you will get that chance.

If anyone can improve him, Robins can, but not sure that player is there within him.

 

[Astute]

New season same old shite.

Last season we were supposed to be in a relegation battle. Lots didn't want to consider we only played away games. They also didn't want to consider that our players were struggling with fitness as we were playing less games. And after the mid season world cup they started again.

And here they go again. They're either clueless about football, love the attention their mad rants get or both.

Simms will succeed. Give him a chance. Still young and learning his trade. Robins knows what he is doing. He saw in Gyokeres what many couldn't see. And when we paid good money for him......

Wait until we have a run of easier games. Played the better sides so far. He needs a goal for his confidence. But he is getting in the right positions and is getting shots in.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Simms reminds me a great deal in terms of his technique of Mick Ferguson , which will mean bugger all to those who are too young to remember the mid to late 70s. A bit awkward and slightly ungamely. Ferguson had the luxury of being able to play off Ian Wallace of course, but I do think Simms needs time to bed in and strike some kind of relationship up front .

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Simms and Wright will play together at some stage. Robins will know when the time is right. Let’s just calm down, and remember where we were this time last season.

 

[WestEndAgro]

I can't really think of a single chance he's had to score other than one yesterday where he forced a save and the one at Leicester which he hit way to early.
It's not like he's missing chances like Godden has.
He took his goals well in the friendlies.
Give him a fair chance.

 

[bawtryneal]

Don't judge him yet
He will turn out to be a great player for us.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Simms reminds me a great deal in terms of his technique of Mick Ferguson , which will mean bugger all to those who are too young to remember the mid to late 70s. A bit awkward and slightly ungamely. Ferguson had the luxury of being able to play off Ian Wallace of course, but I do think Simms needs time to bed in and strike some kind of relationship up front .

He looks slightly like Ferguson at a distance but doesn't play anything like him.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I can't really think of a single chance he's had to score other than one yesterday where he forced a save and the one at Leicester which he hit way to early.
It's not like he's missing chances like Godden has.
He took his goals well in the friendlies.
Give him a fair chance.

He had a very good chance at Wimbledon, but other than that I agree it is a bit concerning he hasn’t really got into the sorts of positions to score.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Don't judge him yet
He will turn out to be a great player for us.

It's fine to judge his performances but remember Gyokeres early performances. We can only wait and see whether he improves or not. Not every player improves like that.

 

[fatso]

Simms reminds me a great deal in terms of his technique of Mick Ferguson , which will mean bugger all to those who are too young to remember the mid to late 70s. A bit awkward and slightly ungamely. Ferguson had the luxury of being able to play off Ian Wallace of course, but I do think Simms needs time to bed in and strike some kind of relationship up front .

I remember one of Aston Villa's centre halves saying Ferguson was the hardest fucker he'd ever played against, said something along the lines that we kept him under the stand and fed him raw meet during the week and only brought him out on a Saturday

I vaguely remember him scoring 4 goals in one game, against Brum I think at HR.
He was an awesome partner for ginger haired Ian Wallace.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I can't really think of a single chance he's had to score other than one yesterday where he forced a save and the one at Leicester which he hit way to early.
It's not like he's missing chances like Godden has.
He took his goals well in the friendlies.
Give him a fair chance.

Exactly, people pointing the finger at the striker are missing the root cause. We haven’t been creating that many clear cut chance. With the exception of Leicester away where we created many chances but did not take them.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I remember one of Aston Villa's centre halves saying Ferguson was the hardest fucker he'd ever played against, said something along the lines that we kept him under the stand and fed him raw meet during the week and only brought him out on a Saturday

I vaguely remember him scoring 4 goals in one game, against Brum I think at HR.
He was an awesome partner for ginger haired Ian Wallace.

It was Ipswich.

 

[shmmeee]

Simms and Wright will play together at some stage. Robins will know when the time is right. Let’s just calm down, and remember where we were this time last season.

I think Golden is there because he knows the system and Robins wants him on with the new lads. Hopefully once they're well versed we'll see them together more.

 

[Grendel]

He looks slightly like Ferguson at a distance but doesn't play anything like him.

Outside the area he plays a lot like him

Like him as well his success or failure will be determined on goals scored

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Outside the area he plays a lot like him

Like him as well his success or failure will be determined on goals scored

I am not sure I have seen him win a header outside the box which was Ferguson's main strength. He is also much faster than Ferguson. Other than a slight physical resemblance there really is no similarity.

 

[Grendel]

I am not sure I have seen him win a header outside the box which was Ferguson's main strength. He is also much faster than Ferguson. Other than a slight physical resemblance there really is no similarity.

Werent you the guy who compared Regis to Gyokeres?

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

Woodys round up

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

61 league games in his career, with 21 goals to his name - slightly better than 1 in 3.

I’ll tentatively predict 12-14 goals for Simms this season. ⚽️

 

[junglej13]

There's was an old Hibs Hearts game on Sky today from when Simms was at Hearts. He was the biggest threat on the pitch. Reminded me he can actually be a really lively player.

 

[CovLad94]

Can't believe people writing him off already, new team, new system. Positive signs on Saturday and will get better, look at Gyokeres when he first signed, struggled to get in the team

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Outside the area he plays a lot like him

Like him as well his success or failure will be determined on goals scored

Seriously in what way does Simms play even remotely like Ferguson outside the area? Ferguson was outstanding in the air and very strong and aggressive in the challenge. He wasn't quick or particularly skillful on the ground.

As I have said I can't recall Simms winning many (any?) Headers outside the area or making many successful challenges on defenders. He doesn't appear to be aggressive. He is reasonably good on the ball and fast when he gets going. So in my view he is totally different. Where is the similarity?

 

[Finham]

David Rennie has played and scored in the Premier League!

Scored in an FA Cup Semi-final against someone, too!

 

[croatskyblue]

Seriously in what way does Simms play even remotely like Ferguson outside the area? Ferguson was outstanding in the air and very strong and aggressive in the challenge. He wasn't quick or particularly skillful on the ground.

As I have said I can't recall Simms winning many (any?) Headers outside the area or making many successful challenges on defenders. He doesn't appear to be aggressive. He is reasonably good on the ball and fast when he gets going. So in my view he is totally different. Where is the similarity?

Football is unrecognisable now to what it was in the 1970s, watching a 70s game compared to a match now is almost like watching a different sport. Any comparisons like that are futile, and stupid. Anyone playing like Ferguson now would barely touch the ball and then be red carded in short order.

Having said that you’re a little quick to make that kind of assessment about Simms, it’s very early days. The list of players who started slow and became important players is a pretty long one- as we know Vic is one, you could also say Regis.. there’s quite a few.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Football is unrecognisable now to what it was in the 1970s, watching a 70s game compared to a match now is almost like watching a different sport. Any comparisons like that are futile, and stupid. Anyone playing like Ferguson now would barely touch the ball and then be red carded in short order.

Having said that you’re a little quick to make that kind of assessment about Simms, it’s very early days. The list of players who started slow and became important players is a pretty long one- as we know Vic is one, you could also say Regis.. there’s quite a few.

I agree the comparison is futile. But I wasn't criticising Simms. I just don't think he plays like Mick Ferguson did at all.

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

Can't believe people writing him off already, new team, new system. Positive signs on Saturday and will get better, look at Gyokeres when he first signed, struggled to get in the team

Exactly. Just stay one of the positive ones! It has always come together eventually under Robins.

Let the fuckwit booboys write players off like they usually do.

I hope Simms has got his fingers in the ears celebration ready . That'll wind them up even more!

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[Finham]

"Simms raises his bat to the crowd after passing 50. But he'll know that he really has to go on to 3 figures if he's going to deliver..."

 

[Flying Fokker]

David Rennie has played and scored in the Premier League!

I think Simms is poor myself, may improve, but can't see it.

Like others, spotted him making a couple of runs into good positions not picked up by any of our other players.

That's part of the problem, shouldn't be spotting " a couple of good runs", he should be doing it all the time, if our midfield know that he's likely to be making a run into a decent position they'll look for it.

Most of the time he's static, so they don't have the opportunity to put it into a decent space.

From what I have seen so far, he's not the type of player to create his own chances
( like many strikers), but needs a lot more movement to stretch defenders and spot spaces to run into.

Often a thankless task, can be doing it all game and not get the ball through to you, but have to think that everytime you do that you will get that chance.

If anyone can improve him, Robins can, but not sure that player is there within him.

You share the views of many a Sunderland fan. They are very critical of him and believe they dodged a bullet in not going after him. Despite him scoring 7 in 17.

I think Robins et Al will give him a fair crack at proving them wrong.