Balli001
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It is a long held myth that teams need 15-20 goal scorers to be successful. We have had fans on here crying wildly over us not having any before.
It is a long held myth that teams need 15-20 goal scorers to be successful. We have had fans on here crying wildly over us not having any before.
Joel Piroe Leeds United Borja Sainz Norwich City Josh Brownhill Burnley Callum Robinson Cardiff City Wilson Isidor Sunderland Josh Maja West Bromwich Albion Anis Mehmeti Bristol City Emmanuel Latte Lath Middlesbrough Callum Lang Portsmouth Josh Windass Sheffield Wednesday Liam Cullen Swansea City Vakoun Issouf Bayo Watford Emil Riis Preston North End Tyrese Campbell Sheffield United Thomas Cannon Stoke City Jerry Yates Derby County Andreas Weimann Blackburn Rovers Haji Wright Coventry City Carlton Morris Luton Town Michael Frey Queens Park Rangers Mihailo Ivanovic Millwall Greg Leigh Oxford United Ryan Hardie Plymouth Argyle A Kamara Hull City
Just for reference, I've listed the top goalscorer for each Championship team this season, amount and the total goals the team has scored in the league. We've obviously shared ours around and a few close but I thought more teams would have 15-20 goal striker in the league. Haji missed a chunk and I guess we're not alone, but really aren't that many who will get there.
we've had a 15 plus goalscorer in the league in 5 of the last 7 years which coincides with us being more successful in general , it definitely helpsIt is a long held myth that teams need 15-20 goal scorers to be successful. We have had fans on here crying wildly over us not having any before.
I think you're the one getting upset as you're banging on how shit he is after every match.Simms isn't having a good season and thats arguably a correct opinion which for some weird reason you're all getting upset about
End of the day he needs to give us much more
I think you're the one getting upset as you're banging on how shit he is after every match.
You will be at earlsdon with sheaf levels soon.
There will always be players that are singled out (often unfairly) for excessive criticism. When we were promoted to the top division going 25 matches unbeaten, Mick Kearns received dreadful abuse. Greg Downs (for not being Stuart Pearce) until we won the Cup. Loads more. Doesn't matter how well the above players play, there is always some who will pick out the isolated mistake to prove an agenda.Nobody mentioned constantly slapping players on the back. But even when we are winning week in and week out,you can come on this forum and guarantee you will see the same players constructively criticisedevery week.
Eccles,DaSilva and Simms to name a few.
If you want to look at the posts and call them constructive you do that. We both know it won’t be true.
Scored one goalHe gets shit because he doesn't always give 100% effort.
When he plays like he did today he's a big handful for anyone, but some games he's absolutely anonymous.
Bassette didn't get the chance to play as a front 2, but always put a shift in.
I think you're the one getting upset as you're banging on how shit he is after every match.
You will be at earlsdon with sheaf levels soon.
9 wins out of 10 almost entirely without him, starting the game he got injured. Call it whatever you want, but what already thin counter-arguments there were against my points are withering away. I got a lot of shit for holding such opinions, but they've turned out to be correct for another season, and I'm not backing down on it. I respect some may still disagree, however.
Fair play to Evo for sticking to what he thinks too, despite getting a lot of shit as well. I think Simms is ok, but there is definitely a desire from some to over-play his contributions in our games. You shouldn't change a winning formula, so I don't want to see him replaced yet, but there are many games this season where I think he has been a bit of a weak link. With Wright coming back that'll add some healthy competition.
9 wins out of 10 almost entirely without him, starting the game he got injured. Call it whatever you want, but what already thin counter-arguments there were against my points are withering away. I got a lot of shit for holding such opinions, but they've turned out to be correct for another season, and I'm not backing down on it. I respect some may still disagree, however.
Fair play to Evo for sticking to what he thinks too, despite getting a lot of shit as well. I think Simms is ok, but there is definitely a desire from some to over-play his contributions in our games. You shouldn't change a winning formula, so I don't want to see him replaced yet, but there are many games this season where I think he has been a bit of a weak link. With Wright coming back that'll add some healthy competition.
We also won the same amount of games without Haji Wright, are we a better team without him too?
I think there are more variables to his sheaf argument, but its weird we've only lost 8 of 41 league games hes missed though injury in the league
Without digging through this seasons results, I’m pretty certain we’ve won more games with Simms and BTA in the team than Haji.
If we’re using that logic, then Haji isn’t our best forward player.
Football is a team game, I highly doubt that Sheaf would make that big a difference. If he did, I’m sure a) his teammates b) his managers c) the pundits and d) the majority of the fan base would have noticed. As it happens, they all highly rate him and they can’t all be wrong on him.
We also won the same amount of games without Haji Wright, are we a better team without him too?
Thing is I dont dislike simms , ive just not been happy with his overall performances this season
Good player. Think hes gonna benefit with Wright coming in at left wing.
That's a nonsense argument coming from a very desperate place.
Sheaf has had four long injuries in three seasons, look at our stats, results, and form during those times and his subsequent returns. The patterns should send alarm bells ringing.
The rest of what you have said in your other posts is just empty rhetoric. I'm sorry that you love this player, but the facts are there to see, and the denial is making otherwise pretty sensible posters like yourself look like children.
It wasn’t an argument, I was playing devil’s advocate. Of course we’re a better team with Haji than BTA.
If the argument is ‘we’ve won 9 out of 10’ is a stick to hit Sheaf with, then the logical next step is to apply that equally then I’d expect you to pass a comment on Haji too.
Your dislike for Sheaf is certainly stronger than my ‘love for him’.
Last season FA Cup semi, two strikers on 19 goals, lots of new signings and a top half finish. Forget the fans who some say don't know anything, but the players too voted Sheaf player of the season. Their opinion who see him day in day out and understand the game will do for me. This season stop start and playing with injury because of lack of options. I think we'll see the benefit of him in the run in and I'm sure we all hope that's true.
Sheaf back (with a seemingly very well managed return) for the run in is absolutely huge for us. Crazy how people can argue that after the previous 2 or 3 seasons
I like Simms, was a big advocate of us signing him, but it’s fair to say he has underwhelmed over the course of his time here. Technically often looks nowhere near the level and seems to lack the mentality to get the best out of himself (which sounds harsh and isn’t intended as a character-assassination). If you took Bassette’s brain and put it in Simms’ body that striker would be an absolute monster.
I think if someone made us a decent offer in the summer I’d be willing to chop him in and see if we can find a more suitable alternative.
Why do you always comment on my posts then?
You're always getting over-invested in Sheaf and any questions around his contributions, but never deliver any counter-arguments to what I'm saying, just playing it safe by calling it 'devil's advocate'. It looks awfully like denial.
There are certain players that you can't question without others needing to compensate by going over the top. There's more evidence of that on this thread about Simms.
You brought up Sheaf. I asked a simple question whether or not the same applies to Haji Wright. He’s missed 21 games for us and we’ve won 10 of them. Our PPG without Haji Wright is 1.9 which is just shy of automatic promotion form.
Which to me, is a reasonable question to ask.
He could put in in 10/10 performances from now to the end of the season and you'd still double down on your opinion. I'd have more sympathy if you actually came out and said you disliked the fella for whatever reason (looks a bit posh, shagged your mrs, came from Arsenal etc) however irrational I may still disagree, but it would be genuine. Your posts and the amount of posts on him are now starting to look pretty unhinged.
Wright has been out for one good spell of ours, Sheaf has had four, across three seasons. The same patterns have emerged. The two samples are completely different, but you know that, you just don't have any counter-arguments but can't ignore it because you are triggered/in denial. The same like those who parrot the same empty rhetoric and leave laughing/poo emojis. I didn't bring it up anyway. Someone had a pop and I wrote a response which was unsurprisingly ignored as well.
Our best midfield is evidently Torp, Grimes, Rudoni. Simms is also our best striker for this role right now, but I expect that could change. Criticism of him is also fair because I think he can give us a bit more as well. Like I said, not a bad problem to have, and if Sheaf starts playing well and pushes us forward that can only be a good thing too.
Not really, I'm comfortable on my very limited volume of posts on him. My counter argument was alreay posted earlier when I said that his peers who knwo far more than you and I ever will and work with him day in and day out, who had Tats, O'Hare, Wright, Simms, MVE and many others in a talented squad, chose him to be their players player of the season last year. A season when we had 2 strikers with lots of goals and reached an FA Cup Semi Final. They know how important he is to our cause when fit.So, not a single counter-point then?
I didn't bring it up, someone else did. They since disappeared also having nothing to say.
I want him to play well, and I want us to go up. If he plays immensely until the end of the season I'll be very happy, and I'll also hold my hands up. So far however, I have been proved correct, and I'm not the one in denial or clutching at straws with this. You should perhaps ask yourself the same questions over the accusations you're throwing at me, however.
Wright has been out for one good spell of ours, Sheaf has had four, across three seasons. The same patterns have emerged. The two samples are completely different, but you know that, you just don't have any counter-arguments but can't ignore it because you are triggered/in denial. The same like those who parrot the same empty rhetoric and leave laughing/poo emojis. I didn't bring it up anyway. Someone had a pop and I wrote a response which was unsurprisingly ignored as well.
Our best midfield is evidently Torp, Grimes, Rudoni. Simms is also our best striker for this role right now, but I expect that could change. Criticism of him is also fair because I think he can give us a bit more as well. Like I said, not a bad problem to have, and if Sheaf starts playing well and pushes us forward that can only be a good thing too.
Not really, I'm comfortable on my very limited volume of posts on him. My counter argument was alreay posted earlier when I said that his peers who knwo far more than you and I ever will and work with him day in and day out, who had Tats, O'Hare, Wright, Simms, MVE and many others in a talented squad, chose him to be their players player of the season last year. A season when we had 2 strikers with lots of goals and reached an FA Cup Semi Final. They know how important he is to our cause when fit.
I'll agree with you that his lack of fitness is an issue, but to suggest he's not good enough is miles off.
He's not triggered or in denial he posed a pretty simple scenario to you that poked a gaping hole in your flawed logic and you once again threw your toys out the pram.
Sheaf statistically was one of the best in his position last season. The start of this season he's obviously struggled, but that doesn't make him a bad player overnight. Quite obviously there are other variables that would have contributed to that - i.e. backroom staff upheaval, weight of the armband, not being 100% fit, drop in confidence, take your pick. Pretty much every player was off the boil though.
He was an integral part in us going on the run of 1 loss in 13 last season as well as in the FA cup run so your logic of doesn't actually make sense when you infer our form consistently dips with him in the side....
It is a shame that you don't feel you have the balls to write anything on here other than a string of laughing emojis until other people have said something so you feel comfortable enough to join the pile on. Some people are genuinely really emotionally attached to Sheaf, your agenda is just to have a pop at someone who has pulled your pants down on this forum several times. In fact, in the last 48hours, your only contribution to this forum has been to follow me around.
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Ignoring the rest of it, the response to me didn't indicate flawed logic. It showcased a massive difference in sample size, which once again has not been responded to, as their isn't really a counter-argument for it. You have then gone onto say he was an integral part of the team who went on a run last season, and whist this is true to some extent, completely fails to look at the full season and our form patterns with or without him surrounding it. We continued to do well in his absence, and then our season totally fell off a cliff which coincided with his return to the team. Not really a good showcase to have as a captain is it? Likewise the season before having two of our best spells, including our promotion charge, without him.
I'm afraid you are going to have to do better than this. Then again, at least you can always do what you did last time, and leave the forum for half a year whilst you collect the toys up that you have thrown out of the pram, alongside whatever remains of your fractured pride.
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