End of season , average away followings (1 Viewer)

[Evo1883]

 

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[shmmeee]

Is there anything in the fact that a lot of these are Northern teams with large stadia so probably give each other fairly big allocations?

 

[JimmyHillsbeard]

Is there anything in the fact that a lot of these are Northern teams with large stadia so probably give each other fairly big allocations?

Everyone else has the chance to play in the same stadia. Across 23 away games the mean average is a fair contest.

If you’re looking for correlation why not focus on the fact that the top 5 ended up in the top 6 of the league table at the end of the season.

 

[Evo1883]

Is there anything in the fact that a lot of these are Northern teams with large stadia so probably give each other fairly big allocations?

Besides burnley I think they are just well supported clubs away , burnley have won the league hence the huge numbers

 

[Evo1883]

Our average was up about 200 from last season

 

[shmmeee]

Besides burnley I think they are just well supported clubs away , burnley have won the league hence the huge numbers

Yeah they are and a few big or recently Prem clubs. Just wondering if having a load of other bug rivals close by means you fill bigger allocations easier.

 

[rob9872]

Phenomenal from Sunderland really

Still don't like them of course

 

[ccfcricoh]

without me looking which games have we taken far less than allocation? Saw Sunderland had loads at Preston yesterday so that game alone could make up a big chunk of difference between us and them

 

[SkyB]

We got capped a lot by home sides this season. Brum and Baggies spring to mind as games we could have sold 4/5K but were limited to around 2k.

 

[SonofErnie]

Interesting that all 5 in that list finished in the top 6. How much influence have away followings had on performances?

 

[Robinshio]

We got capped a lot by home sides this season. Brum and Baggies spring to mind as games we could have sold 4/5K but were limited to around 2k.

yes and another 800 tickets across the season takes us to 3rd in the list

 

[CCFC_Irish]

Interesting that all 5 in that list finished in the top 6. How much influence have away followings had on performances?

Away Att	​	​	GP​	W​	D​	L​	GF​	GA​	GD​	Pts
2,261	1​	Burnley	23​	13​	8​	2​	38​	20​	+18​	47​
1,276	2​	Luton Town	23​	11​	8​	4​	26​	18​	+8​	41​
2,074	3​	Sheffield Utd	23​	12​	4​	7​	26​	20​	+6​	40​
2,655	4​	Sunderland	23​	11​	6​	6​	35​	22​	+13​	39​
1.554	5​	Preston	23​	10​	5​	8​	25​	31​	-6​	35​
1,653	6​	Norwich City	23​	9​	6​	8​	30​	27​	+3​	33​
2,043	7​	Coventry City	23​	7​	9​	7​	28​	22​	+6​	30​
1.658	8​	Stoke City	23​	8​	6​	9​	30​	27​	+3​	30​
2,066	9​	Middlesbrough	23​	9​	2​	12​	38​	37​	+1​	29​
1.063	10​	Swansea City	23​	7​	8​	8​	30​	32​	-2​	29​
1.062	11​	Millwall	23​	8​	5​	10​	23​	28​	-5​	29​
1.279	12​	QP Rangers	23​	7​	6​	10​	23​	36​	-13​	27​
1,681	13​	West Brom	23​	7​	5​	11​	28​	33​	-5​	26​
1,578	14​	Blackburn	23​	7​	5​	11​	25​	35​	-10​	26​
1,.998	15​	Birmingham City	23​	7​	5​	11​	23​	34​	-11​	26​
1,325	16​	Hull City	23​	5​	10​	8​	27​	34​	-7​	25​
1,158	17​	Bristol City	23​	6​	7​	10​	25​	32​	-7​	25​
1,372	18​	Watford	23​	5​	9​	9​	21​	30​	-9​	24​
1,129	19​	Cardiff City	23​	7​	3​	13​	21​	34​	-13​	24​
1,068	20​	Wigan Athletic	23​	5​	8​	10​	21​	30​	-9​	23​
1,083	21​	Huddersfield	23​	5​	5​	13​	21​	37​	-16​	20​
1,066	22​	Blackpool	23​	5​	5​	13​	20​	38​	-18​	20​
1.066	23​	Rotherham	23​	2​	11​	10​	12​	30​	-18​	17​
964	24​	Reading	23​	3​	3​	17​	15​	44​	-29​	12​

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[Speedies_Chips]

yes and another 800 tickets across the season takes us to 3rd in the list

What are you talking about?

edit: I see what you meant. If we had been allowed to sell more tickets to those games.
There are other factors too such as how many extra we would have taken if Preston or Swansea had been on Saturdays.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

On my basic maths. Our average is 23 less fans per game than MBoro. Therefore (23+1) over season 24 x 23 (games) = 523 only extra away fan over 23 game season would have given us an average of total of 2067 - one more than MBoro. I fully accept that is probably too crude and overly simplistic.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It's funny how consistent it is, there are 6 teams with less than 20 difference

 

[Evo1883]

Mk Dons , messing with averages every season, adds 1-300 on most teams average

Ipswich took 7000 there ..would knock their average below 2000 for example

 

[fernandopartridge]

Plymouth is most impressive of the lot imo

 

[Evo1883]

Plymouth is most impressive of the lot imo

Yes absolutely , great following

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Plymouth is most impressive of the lot imo

Yeah, but it does get them out of Plymouth for the day, so it's a big incentive.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Success breeds success. Yes, the top 5 in the Champ list ended in the top 6 in the table. Look at the bottom as well. All those in and around the relegation zone. Fans will go to see successful teams and won't bother to travel if their team is poor or doesn't get the results they need. We've seen that with our own away following. 2 seasons ago, we were taking around 1500, this season we're practically selling out away tickets in short order.

 

[Evo1883]

10th highest home average in the EFL

Should we stay down I'd like that to be a couple thousand more next season

 

[shmmeee]

10th highest home average in the EFL

Should we stay down I'd like that to be a couple thousand more next season

I think 22/23k is attainable if we stay down and challenge early next season. Basically this season without the first seven games.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I think 22/23k is attainable if we stay down and challenge early next season. Basically this season without the first seven games.

Its easy to forget how we spent a third of the season in the relegation zone, and had 3 Saturday games moved to the evening. We would've been at least 21k without that.

 

[Astute]

The Sunderland away numbers are very impressive when you consider they have much further than most to travel on average considering they are right up north. Our distance must average one of the lowest considering we're in the Midlands.

 

[bigfatronssba]

The Sunderland away numbers are very impressive when you consider they have much further than most to travel on average considering they are right up north. Our distance must average one of the lowest considering we're in the Midlands.

I’m pretty sure there was a table on twitter that had our distance as something like third lowest.
However it was surprising that when averaged out the difference wasn’t massive. There were about 10 other clubs that only had about an extra 30 miles to do on average

 

[Evo1883]

I’m pretty sure there was a table on twitter that had our distance as something like third lowest.
However it was surprising that when averaged out the difference wasn’t massive. There were about 10 other clubs that only had about an extra 30 miles to do on average

Yea sunderland on average I believe travel a further 80 miles

 

[Happy_Martian]

I think 22/23k is attainable if we stay down and challenge early next season. Basically this season without the first seven games.

First seven severely affected our crowd numbers, agreed. By the time we started to play at home, we were almost bottom. We only saw a significant upturn after our results got better (as per my previous post). First home league game was end of August vs Preston, 18913 att. Next was beginning of October vs Middlesboro, 19788 att. Final Saturday home game in October vs Blackpool, 8924... that's all. First 20K+ attendance was QPR in mid-November which brought in 23201 fans. But that could be linked to it being the last home game before the World Cup break as the next home game vs Swansea in mid-December was only 17985 att. It's only been since mid-February that we've been getting consistent 21K+ crowds.

It's disappointing but Coventry fans and the Coventry public in general are very fickle. If they see success and positive moves within the team, they will respond. At the moment we are on a high. If we were to get past Middlesboro, I'd expect a 40,000+ sellout at Wembley. If at any stage we fail to progress and have to start again in the Championship next season, I can also envisage the initial games being popular but unless they see consistent entertaining and winning performances, those fairweather fans will start to drift away and will only reappear if we start to show more success again. Any loss of Vik, Gus and maybe CoH would also affect how the public perceives "success" within the club.

22/23K may be attainable but I don't see the fairweather fans staying for long enough to see any improvement or to generate the amazing, electric atmospheres we've seen at the CBS this season.

 

[bigfatronssba]

First seven severely affected our crowd numbers, agreed. By the time we started to play at home, we were almost bottom. We only saw a significant upturn after our results got better (as per my previous post). First home league game was end of August vs Preston, 18913 att. Next was beginning of October vs Middlesboro, 19788 att. Final Saturday home game in October vs Blackpool, 8924... that's all. First 20K+ attendance was QPR in mid-November which brought in 23201 fans. But that could be linked to it being the last home game before the World Cup break as the next home game vs Swansea in mid-December was only 17985 att. It's only been since mid-February that we've been getting consistent 21K+ crowds.

It's disappointing but Coventry fans and the Coventry public in general are very fickle. If they see success and positive moves within the team, they will respond. At the moment we are on a high. If we were to get past Middlesboro, I'd expect a 40,000+ sellout at Wembley. If at any stage we fail to progress and have to start again in the Championship next season, I can also envisage the initial games being popular but unless they see consistent entertaining and winning performances, those fairweather fans will start to drift away and will only reappear if we start to show more success again. Any loss of Vik, Gus and maybe CoH would also affect how the public perceives "success" within the club.

22/23K may be attainable but I don't see the fairweather fans staying for long enough to see any improvement or to generate the amazing, electric atmospheres we've seen at the CBS this season.

We're no different to any other fans

 

[napolimp]

The Sunderland away numbers are very impressive when you consider they have much further than most to travel on average considering they are right up north. Our distance must average one of the lowest considering we're in the Midlands.

To be fair, there's literally nothing else going on in Sunderland.

 

[Happy_Martian]

We're no different to any other fans

We're probably not, especially to those of teams from the lower Prem down to League 2 and National League level. But the context of the comment was only about us and sustaining a level of fan support at the CBS in future seasons if we don't get promoted.