End of Woke News? (9 Viewers)

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I see that having the freedom to choose who you advertise with is now anti freedom of speech. Much better that we dictate who companies are allowed to advertise with, that would be freedom of speech in action. No, wait…

Not really the case is is it? A campaign was launched by the woke brigade, a couple of large companies said oh-er missus, halted the advertising but then restarted because it was a knee jerk action. It;s a bit like the righties complaining about the beeb. Left or right, all those trying to deplatform can just feck off.
 

skybluetony176

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Not really the case is is it? A campaign was launched by the woke brigade, a couple of large companies said oh-er missus, halted the advertising but then restarted because it was a knee jerk action. It;s a bit like the righties complaining about the beeb. Left or right, all those trying to deplatform can just feck off.
You should tell JHB. I was referencing what she’s posted on Facebook.
 

clint van damme

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Not really the case is is it? A campaign was launched by the woke brigade, a couple of large companies said oh-er missus, halted the advertising but then restarted because it was a knee jerk action. It;s a bit like the righties complaining about the beeb. Left or right, all those trying to deplatform can just feck off.

Don't really see this as deplatforming. Using consumer power to affect the strategies of large corporations isn't the same as preventing someone from speaking because you don't like what they say.
 
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Don't really see this as deplatforming. Using consumer power to affect the strategies of large corporations isn't the same as preventing someone from speaking because you don't like what they say.

Not really consumer power is it? It's not. let's stop buying this product. It is indeed a bunch of infantile lefties tweeting their hate (and indeed their tweets and those from the individuals who try to hide behind SFH are pretty vile and infantile).
 

SBAndy

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Don’t remember this uproar when sponsors/advertisers with FIFA were pulling out due to the corruption scandal.
 

clint van damme

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Not really consumer power is it? It's not. let's stop buying this product. It is indeed a bunch of infantile lefties tweeting their hate (and indeed their tweets and those from the individuals who try to hide behind SFH are pretty vile and infantile).

Not really. In the same way that some people said they would stop using Argos when their advert featured a black family. Whatever that was it wasn't no platforming.
Argos were free to carry on or to change their advertising campaign based on those complaints, same as companies advertising on GB news.

When companies said they were withdrawing from GB news there were people who said they'd would boycott them because of it, again, consumer choice, they weren't forcibly being stopped from advertising wherever they chose to.
 

shmmeee

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You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up?

The main problem here seems to be left wing values are better marketing than right wing so the right are easily ignored.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Not really consumer power is it? It's not. let's stop buying this product. It is indeed a bunch of infantile lefties tweeting their hate (and indeed their tweets and those from the individuals who try to hide behind SFH are pretty vile and infantile).

I missed the part where left wingers were demanding an NFL boycott because of Kaepernick taking the knee.
 

Grendel

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You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up?

The main problem here seems to be left wing values are better marketing than right wing so the right are easily ignored.

Yes the left expressing anger at IKEA for not representing their political views by advertising on a minority news channel - very moral and very earnest.

I’m surprised these left wing moralists still see fit to buy dodgy flat packs a company that has stores in Saudi Arabia and was prepared to removal all female images in its marketing over there
 

shmmeee

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Yes the left expressing anger at IKEA for not representing their political views by advertising on a minority news channel - very moral and very earnest.

I’m surprised these left wing moralists still see fit to buy dodgy flat packs a company that has stores in Saudi Arabia and was prepared to removal all female images in its marketing over there

Who said anything about moral? Since when does the invisible hand have morals?

This is very basic capitalism in action. I thought you’d be all for it.
 

Nick

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Let's face it, they are all just cunts wanting a bit of attention and back patting.

It's no different to the NOPM people saying they won't go to games even though they didn't any way.

It's more than likely that the people saying they won't drink Kopparberg didn't anyway but just want likes online.

"I have just rung up Octopus Energy to express my outrage that they chose to advertise on a TV channel full of racists, it just isn't on and I will be moving to an ethical provider"

"I have just rung up Octopus Energy to tell them I wish to cancel because they gave in to Left Wing Loons. I will be moving to a provider who is for the people"

Don't even use Octopus Energy but either of those would get some likes and make me seem cool.
 
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You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up?

The main problem here seems to be left wing values are better marketing than right wing so the right are easily ignored.

You do have a habit of projecting upset, anger, outrage or uproar onto any view that you disagree with. I'm not angered or outraged! But it is a poor habit, and it can be a bit wearing.

Deplatforming is the outcome of a petition, as is a twitter campaign. It aint consumer power.
 
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clint van damme

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You do have a habit of projecting anger and outrage onto any view that you disagree with. I'm not angered or outraged! But it is a poor habit, and it can be a bit wearing.

Deplatforming is the outcome of a petition, as is a twitter campaign. It aint consumer power.

Deplatforming is denying a platform, that hasn't happened here.
 

shmmeee

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You do have a habit of projecting upset, anger, outrage or uproar onto any view that you disagree with. I'm not angered or outraged! But it is a poor habit, and it can be a bit wearing.

Deplatforming is the outcome of a petition, as is a twitter campaign. It aint consumer power.

Where have I said you were outraged or angered? You sure you’ve read my post correctly?

And it’s not deplatforming. A businesses customers aren’t it’s platform. As I said outrage comes from both sides (sides not you) and clearly the marketing department decide that they care more about those whining from the left. Which makes sense for companies that generally have a family friendly image. As I said earlier in the thread I don’t see people crying cancel culture when companies don’t advertise on PornHub, it’s just accepted that corporations don’t want to be associated with certain activities/viewpoints.
 

Grendel

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Yes the left expressing anger at IKEA for not representing their political views by advertising on a minority news channel - very moral and very earnest.

I’m surprised these left wing moralists still see fit to buy dodgy flat packs a company that has stores in Saudi Arabia and was prepared to removal all female images in its marketing over there

Well you said left wing values. Pretty strange value to not criticise a company for its marketing in an unpleasant regime and to start a campaign against a random advert on a minority news programme
 
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Where have I said you were outraged or angered? You sure you’ve read my post correctly?

You're perhaps not aware that you tend to do this projection either directly or passively towards the person or the view expressed or position held.

From just today, an example of doing this directly would be projection of 'upset' onto a poster in another thread this morning,

An example of doing it passively is here:

"You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up"

The left are rational, calm folk. The right tend towards outrage.

But you are not alone here in this. It seems to be a style of discussion employed by a couple of others, though admittedly your style is more subtle.
 

skybluetony176

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Not really. In the same way that some people said they would stop using Argos when their advert featured a black family. Whatever that was it wasn't no platforming.
Argos were free to carry on or to change their advertising campaign based on those complaints, same as companies advertising on GB news.

When companies said they were withdrawing from GB news there were people who said they'd would boycott them because of it, again, consumer choice, they weren't forcibly being stopped from advertising wherever they chose to.
There were people trying to organise a boycott of Greggs when they brought out Vegan sausage rolls. Snowflakes everywhere.
 

SBT

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You're perhaps not aware that you tend to do this projection either directly or passively towards the person or the view expressed or position held.

From just today, an example of doing this directly would be projection of 'upset' onto a poster in another thread this morning,

An example of doing it passively is here:

"You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up"

The left are rational, calm folk. The right tend towards outrage.

But you are not alone here in this. It seems to be a style of discussion employed by a couple of others, though admittedly your style is more subtle.

You mean like when you accused me of being antagonistic when I was joking about your RT fandom back on page 2?
 

chiefdave

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What have they spent the £60m on? The whole setup is sub bedroom youtuber. Saw one of their reporters on twitter talking about how they're being sent out solo with no tech crew so have to do their own cameras & sound. No wonder things keep going wrong.
 

clint van damme

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What have they spent the £60m on? The whole setup is sub bedroom youtuber. Saw one of their reporters on twitter talking about how they're being sent out solo with no tech crew so have to do their own cameras & sound. No wonder things keep going wrong.

Just shows you need serious cash to set up a slick operation.
 

Nick

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What have they spent the £60m on? The whole setup is sub bedroom youtuber. Saw one of their reporters on twitter talking about how they're being sent out solo with no tech crew so have to do their own cameras & sound. No wonder things keep going wrong.

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Call me shallow, but the choice of colours for the backdrop doesn't help matters - just so dark and miserable.
 

shmmeee

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You're perhaps not aware that you tend to do this projection either directly or passively towards the person or the view expressed or position held.

From just today, an example of doing this directly would be projection of 'upset' onto a poster in another thread this morning,

An example of doing it passively is here:

"You are woke lefties forcing a company to stop advertising, I am a rational man of the people expressing my annoyance that this brand is not expressing the values of the people.

Do we really need to bring Gillette or Disney or the million other companies subjected to right wing outrage up"

The left are rational, calm folk. The right tend towards outrage.

But you are not alone here in this. It seems to be a style of discussion employed by a couple of others, though admittedly your style is more subtle.

I think you’re paranoid.

To clarify, the first sentence was using a well worn trope of “you are irrational I am rational” when two sides do the same thing. The point is everyone does it, but you’ve taken it to be an attack rather than what it is, which is a comment on shared humanity.

The second furthers that point by bringing up concrete examples of outrage from the right (to balance this example of outrage from the left, again not assigning one side as the culprit). And yes, the reactions to Gillette and Star Wars/etc were outrage.

The most partisan thing I said is that “left wing” (socially liberal) values (“be nice” basically) we’re more marketable than controversial ideas like COVID denial and pedophilia apologism That’s been highlighted on GBN.

I don’t think this is a particularly controversial statement. Brands play safe not edgy shocker. I’ve even provided an example where the left wing orthodoxy (pro porn sex positiveness) is outweighed by the conservative anti porn position in marketers thoughts, again because it’s the safe option.

I’ve not talked about you, projected anything onto you or any single person.
 

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