Nick
Administrator
Exactly, I don't doubt that the PR team would have targeted him and "rounded up the troops" as such.
You can't fault the PR work at all, it did exactly what it said on the tin. It is just weird now they are denying it happened.
And it goes to show just how successful the council PR machine was when anyone who spoke out against CC was a SISU rent boy.
What would people do if Sisu took over Wasps?
A club being sustainable will not get you to the PL. You need to take a finanancial risk (debt/sugar daddy) to get there.
Still want to see the business case for the Ricoh against a new stadium.
Yes both cases will not get us there. That fight was lost before Sisu got here.
Financial risk is the reason we're in this mess. Yet you advocate more of the same.
Genius!
No its not me. If you look at the debt for clubs challenging for the top of the Championship that the stats.
Leicester wage bill IIRC was 130% of income. Who put in the difference?
We were paying rent, running costs and massively marked up utility costs under the previous rental agreement at the Ricoh. It was never a case of 'heres £1.2 million and we'll rock up when we like'.
What would people do if Sisu took over Wasps?
So you don't think there is another option then? We must all blindly follow other clubs in the hope it suits us or works? Out of curisoity, what do you make of Arsenal's financial strategy? They have consistently challenged for the top four and make a profit. I know they have fans calling for money to be spent. But nonetheless they are a successful club who are sustainable.
Not the case. Perhaps your getting confused with matchday costs which we have to cover now anyway.
The CET consistently try to undermine the club but strenuously deny it as if people can't read or write nor come to their own opinion.
Not the case. Perhaps your getting confused with matchday costs which we have to cover now anyway.
You only have to look at the Telegraph comments or their facebook page to see that people take a lot of what is printed at face value and don't look past the headlines.
Of course yesterday looked good for SISU and bad for CCC. It was the turn of SISU's legal team. Just like in the JR when Grendel said that they would win. So we have heard one side of the story. Although we can see that CCC could have done things a lot better.
Not the case. Perhaps your getting confused with matchday costs which we have to cover now anyway.
A bit like people interpreting yesterday Sisu only input as the facts ?
No doubt all the people saying get over it, time to move on etc, would be frothing at the mouth if all this evidence was pointing against Sisu.
Let's be honest Sisu are complete arseholes and have done no end of damage to our club for the last 8 years or so.
Our very own council though have damaged us for the next 250. Utter cretins IMO.
A bit like people interpreting yesterday Sisu only input as the facts ?
I don't think many are talking about what their laywer or they have said, just looking at the evidence which is factual isn't it? Unless it was photoshopped.
It seems that it can be interpreted several ways.
A lot of it is normal speak behind closed doors except the Sisu speak we never see.
I would not like to be the person who pulls this together.
I assume that Sisu need this to find in their favour to feed into the JR.
And I'm the clown?
Right ok I have changed my mind and now I fully blame the council 100%. Ok what's that achieved? Oh yeah nothing.
Can't disagree with any of that.The council managed to criticise Sisu for taking our club away from the city and fans to Northampton, which was fine because that shouldn't have happened. No problem whatsoever with that it's the other side of the coin where it's screwed up. Having said moving teams is wrong and pointing the finger at Sisu very publicly for doing so, what did they do next? They welcomed the approaches from a club that was playing further away than we were at Sixfields to move all those miles to our stadium and City. However they didn't stop with just .... Having done that they agreed to increase the lease for ACL fivefold and then sell the company to them.
Staggering hypocrisy, how can it not be okay for Sisu to take our club away from the fans yet the second someone else i.e. Wasps wants to do it - no problem.
In defence of Sisu (and I don't think I've ever said that before) despite the problems off the pitch we're top of the league. After last season where we all know what happened and the position we ended up in that's a major turn around. Sadly this is balanced by the idea of the new stadium still being banded about with no further real news years on from the original announcement.
Make judgement about what though?
You have councillors saying things to the press (look at Mutton with his bit about the greed running through the DNA). He made a statement of his thoughts on the radio, then when asked yesterday he backtracked saying he was just quoting somebody else. The same as Ann Lucas saying "hell will freeze over" and then backtracks saying she was just quoting the thoughts of city fans.
I'd say when you have councillor's doing things like that, you can sort of make a judgement can't you?
The same as Ann Lucas saying "hell will freeze over" and then backtracks saying she was just quoting the thoughts of city fans.
The thing is people were hammering Les Reid for being SISU's PR but it seems it has turned out he was just trying to report what was actually happening at the time, especially with the bailout thing that was "not reported" which nobody seems to really have much of an issue with.
I don't doubt SISU were attempting to do some aspects of PR, where they went wrong though is not spending a fair amount on Weber Shandwick and denying it.
I think 99.9% of people will tell you SISU haven't always done the best by the club, owners will come and go and often screw up. Local councils however, you would expect to do the best by the club (Especially after they put out those heart wrenching statements about being stood by us in the terraces etc). I am not talking about owners, just the club. If they wanted the club to gain from it I am pretty sure they could have made offers with conditions about ownership to make sure the club was benefiting from it.
You have a history of starting threads which normally begin by saying you won't take sides but always then as ever 100% support one side and a lot of your posting is on this subject. Odd as you have no interest in it.
The one you started urging people not to go to Northampton and continuing to harm the club was a classic.
That did produce one comedy quote from Italia though - they he can hold his head up high in years to come as he never went to sixfields. A man with anti franchise principals.
can somebody sensibly briefly describe the purpose of this hearing, what are possible outcomes, what relevance it has to any other ongoing legal disputes and whether it has any impact on existing Ricoh/ACL ownership/tenancy?
can somebody sensibly briefly describe the purpose of this hearing, what are possible outcomes, what relevance it has to any other ongoing legal disputes and whether it has any impact on existing Ricoh/ACL ownership/tenancy?
Anything that comes out of this will be fed into the JR(s) as evidence for Sisu that CCC were treating them badly.
The impact on the stadium ownership will be nil but financially CCC could be penalised at the taxpayers expense and at 'CCFC/SISU' gain (Compensation).
Nicely spun there to make it look like it would be sisu and the club taking money from the tax payer, rather than the council messing up and losing it.
compensation means the council would have been deemed to be in the wrong, if compensation is awarded it would be to cover loses that are judged to have occured.I think compensation means that ?
Nicely spun there to make it look like it would be sisu and the club taking money from the tax payer, rather than the council messing up and losing it.
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