Ccfcisparks
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Even if the whole of the UK boycott, there is a huge market in America, Africa and East Asia for them to tap into. No doubt they’d get at least 20m viewers every game,
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Frostie
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Skybluefaz
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"it's amazing the amount of uproar when someone's pocket is getting hurt, it's a shame it's not like that with racism"
Flying Fokker
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Academy? But who would join? Not if their parents were true fans....oh
Brighton Sky Blue
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Wonder if there are parallels to draw with Kerry Packer’s cricket venture of the late 70s
Liquid Gold
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Absolutely, fair fucks to him
For those who didn't see it:
I'm not giving him too much credit as he's moaning about the protests. If he's that unhappy he's one of the few people in a position to do something about it.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Frostie
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Not sure how much the players can do other than speaking out about it. They & the coaching staff etc weren't even consulted on it so whilst protests absolutely should happen I'm not sure shouting abuse at the team bus is the way to go.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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If one or two drop out it will fall apart, read that man city and Chelsea were not keen on it but afraid of being left behind
Liquid Gold
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The players should be made aware that sticking with their clubs and joining in this league will result in them being pariahs.
Frostie
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I'm sure they're aware but they're all under contract to clubs who couldn't give a flying fuck. Be interesting to see if the PFA try to see what legally they can do to get players out of contracts, that would be a game changer.
kg82
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Give him a chance! News literally came out yesterday!
Sky Blue Harry H
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Wondered that too. Liverpool would crap themselves if that took off there. Their fans do seem the sort to unite behind a cause.
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Patrick Bamford spoke really impressively there.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Kick the big 'six' out reform them back into the bottom of English leagues as Phoenix clubs and let FSG, glazers, levy and Abramovich play glorified friendlies in Asia between themselves every season
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Gonna be hilarious hearing about how spurs and arsenals entire season is finished after 4 weeks because they lose the first 4 matches and the rest mean absolutely nothing as they can't get relegated
Perez - Real Madrid president speaking at the moment. Absolutely incredible. Can’t believe some of the things he is coming out with. For anyone who are interested..
Only way to generate money for clubs to pay off debts brought about by pandemic is to play more competitive games
Super League will save clubs financially
Football must evolve. Tv deals going down. Needs to become more global
Big clubs playing each other more often generates more money. Not just the rich who want super league
If big clubs continue to lose money whole football system crashes down
Not a closed league. 5 teams will be able to play with best teams in the world
Doesn’t understand new UCL format. Super League will save football
Players won’t be banned from playing for national teams - impossible
Teams won’t be banned from domestic leagues - impossible
Teams won’t be suspended from this years champions league and Europa League - impossible
If top clubs are richer lower clubs get richer
PSG not invited yet. German clubs not invited yet. If they refuse it will not be cancelled
15 founding clubs matter most
If no Super League football will die by 2024. This is only way to save everyone
Everything will go back to normal
Will hire best referees in the world
Everyone signed contracts last Saturday and these were binding. Teams cannot leave
Trying to start in August
If no agreement with UEFA will not back down
Young people find football matches too long. May need to make matches shorter
Just wow
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Only way to generate money for clubs to pay off debts brought about by pandemic is to play more competitive games
Super League will save clubs financially
Football must evolve. Tv deals going down. Needs to become more global
Big clubs playing each other more often generates more money. Not just the rich who want super league
If big clubs continue to lose money whole football system crashes down
Not a closed league. 5 teams will be able to play with best teams in the world
Doesn’t understand new UCL format. Super League will save football
Players won’t be banned from playing for national teams - impossible
Teams won’t be banned from domestic leagues - impossible
Teams won’t be suspended from this years champions league and Europa League - impossible
If top clubs are richer lower clubs get richer
PSG not invited yet. German clubs not invited yet. If they refuse it will not be cancelled
15 founding clubs matter most
If no Super League football will die by 2024. This is only way to save everyone
Everything will go back to normal
Will hire best referees in the world
Everyone signed contracts last Saturday and these were binding. Teams cannot leave
Trying to start in August
If no agreement with UEFA will not back down
Young people find football matches too long. May need to make matches shorter
Just wow
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hill83
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Has he been talking to my 5 year old son?
kg82
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He’s full of shit. Rich get richer, so will the poor. Yeah, that’s how it works. Literally saying anything to try and justify his self-interest and assuming people will lap it up.
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I don’t believe they won’t get the twenty clubs needed Rangers & Celtic for two both pissed off with Scottish football, PSG, Galatasaray & Fernabache there will be others. A lot will be down to what the current authorities do or try to do, kick them out of their domestic competitions ? Let’s see what balls they have.
SBAndy
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I almost made a comment yesterday that it wouldn’t be long until football matches were an hour long and were divided into quarters - seems that wouldn’t have been too far off the mark!
Flying Fokker
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Sadly, we have a watered down version of these charlatans. Look at what they did to us. Their big league dreams seem to be looking easier but here again the fans were the one that suffered. Never forget.
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The telegraph is pointing the fingers firmly at the Spanish clubs, who are in financial trouble.
I see the Glazer family took £20m in divis from Utd last year.
The pressure in recent weeks to agree a public consensus on the Super League and announce its founders has come almost exclusively from Spain where Pérez’s Real and Barcelona are burdened with debts so severe it threatens to take them under. In both cases more than €1 billion with no way out in a depressed pandemic transfer-market. Real are committed to a costly long-term stadium rebuild; Barcelona struggled to meet their six-monthly wage obligations in January. Pérez has long sought to eliminate the financial supremacy of the Premier League, built on the equality that Spain’s Liga will not tolerate, and he has found a way in via the soft underbelly of the American ownerships.
The Glazers at Manchester United, Liverpool’s Fenway Group, and the hapless Kroenke family ownership at Arsenal own the three most valuable heritage pieces of English football. Unlike the US sports franchises under their control whose value and revenue is protected by the closed-shop nature of US sport leagues, there is no such stability in the English game. The jeopardy of the sport is what confers its intrinsic value and also what makes it such a challenge to its owners. Those owners would much rather the Major League Soccer system, where each franchise is guaranteed its place in the league year in and year out and holds its value for an investor.
Although there is a consequence to that too – MLS has high franchise valuations but a paltry annual broadcast deal of €90 million. Football fans can smell the absence of risk and the confected nature of a competition where there is no relegation and they treat it accordingly. Yet this is the model that the great European game would follow.
A Super League is, tragically, a great victory for Pérez, a man who controls Real despite investing no more money in the club than his annual socio fee of €150. So too for Agnelli, the unremarkable scion of one of Italy’s great industrialist families who, like Joel Glazer or that renowned football expert Josh Kroenke inherited all their power and wealth from mum and dad. The Spanish and Italian clubs who have trampled competition in their own leagues have finally unlocked the door to the one competitor whom they could not rein in: the Premier League, where a democracy of sorts existed and the super-majority of 14 meant that everyone shared the decision-making.
It was the destruction of that fragile consensus that PBP sought and yet in the aftermath the 14 clubs fought back. Never let it be forgotten that when the reckoning came at a fiery Premier League shareholders’ meeting in October, the clubs that had been integral to PBP’s conception – who had finessed its very detail – duly joined in the unanimous condemnation of the proposals they had themselves created.
I see the Glazer family took £20m in divis from Utd last year.
The pressure in recent weeks to agree a public consensus on the Super League and announce its founders has come almost exclusively from Spain where Pérez’s Real and Barcelona are burdened with debts so severe it threatens to take them under. In both cases more than €1 billion with no way out in a depressed pandemic transfer-market. Real are committed to a costly long-term stadium rebuild; Barcelona struggled to meet their six-monthly wage obligations in January. Pérez has long sought to eliminate the financial supremacy of the Premier League, built on the equality that Spain’s Liga will not tolerate, and he has found a way in via the soft underbelly of the American ownerships.
The Glazers at Manchester United, Liverpool’s Fenway Group, and the hapless Kroenke family ownership at Arsenal own the three most valuable heritage pieces of English football. Unlike the US sports franchises under their control whose value and revenue is protected by the closed-shop nature of US sport leagues, there is no such stability in the English game. The jeopardy of the sport is what confers its intrinsic value and also what makes it such a challenge to its owners. Those owners would much rather the Major League Soccer system, where each franchise is guaranteed its place in the league year in and year out and holds its value for an investor.
Although there is a consequence to that too – MLS has high franchise valuations but a paltry annual broadcast deal of €90 million. Football fans can smell the absence of risk and the confected nature of a competition where there is no relegation and they treat it accordingly. Yet this is the model that the great European game would follow.
A Super League is, tragically, a great victory for Pérez, a man who controls Real despite investing no more money in the club than his annual socio fee of €150. So too for Agnelli, the unremarkable scion of one of Italy’s great industrialist families who, like Joel Glazer or that renowned football expert Josh Kroenke inherited all their power and wealth from mum and dad. The Spanish and Italian clubs who have trampled competition in their own leagues have finally unlocked the door to the one competitor whom they could not rein in: the Premier League, where a democracy of sorts existed and the super-majority of 14 meant that everyone shared the decision-making.
It was the destruction of that fragile consensus that PBP sought and yet in the aftermath the 14 clubs fought back. Never let it be forgotten that when the reckoning came at a fiery Premier League shareholders’ meeting in October, the clubs that had been integral to PBP’s conception – who had finessed its very detail – duly joined in the unanimous condemnation of the proposals they had themselves created.
Otis
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Exactly what I said last week when I looked in my cup of mushroom soup from that cafe next to Dungerness power station.
Bugsy
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yeah 20m people who have no connection with the actual football club just glory hole hunters who just be cheering the team who wins the league. how shit.
no connected fans no affiliation no passion it will die before it gets started it will just dwindle away. greedy parasites who have no desire to look after their number 1 customer base. it makes me sad and disgusts me
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Marty
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If FIFA/uefa/FA stand firm, they could turn this into a joke league within 3 seasons, where players only go for one last pay day before retirement.
Ban all players from competing in any FIFA/uefa ran competitions, FA to ban all players from the domestic game. Ban all officials from those clubs from ever being involved in football again.
Immediately throw out all clubs from domestic league, no relegations, 6 up from division below, prize money to be split between all 86 remaining clubs, money given to supporters of the 6 to start phoenix clubs, with a minimum 51% fan ownership.
I actually think football in this country would be a lot better without those 6 clubs.
Ban all players from competing in any FIFA/uefa ran competitions, FA to ban all players from the domestic game. Ban all officials from those clubs from ever being involved in football again.
Immediately throw out all clubs from domestic league, no relegations, 6 up from division below, prize money to be split between all 86 remaining clubs, money given to supporters of the 6 to start phoenix clubs, with a minimum 51% fan ownership.
I actually think football in this country would be a lot better without those 6 clubs.
Otis
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They were talking to people in the far East yesterday on the news and they loved the idea, but of course they don't go to matches anyway. That's who it's going to appeal to the most. Those in far flung places who only ever watch games on TV anyway.
Agreed Otis. Focus on tv money. You can see it now, playing matches in neutral countries, extortionate ticket prices etc etc (*like NFL, and Barca for that matter) turning it into a match day experience for tourists rather than for fans that love their club and are desperate to see them win
*I love the NFL and have been some games over but you can’t follow your team properly like we do over here (ticket prices, travel etc)
Covstu
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Think the issue is that it’s looking at the worldwide market. It’s a fuck you to their own countries but how many fans in Korea, India, China etc etc. What they probably haven’t counted on is the massive reaction from their fans which could affect sales, merchandise etc. Still cannot see it happening perosnally
chiefdave
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Well that changes everything, I'm 100% in now
