Torquay Sky Blue
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What if we lose 3-4 with a forward passing, quick movement display? or win 1-0 with a turgid sideways backwards ?
What if we lose 3-4 with a forward passing, quick movement display? or win 1-0 with a turgid sideways backwards ?I won't feel sorry for Southgate and his £3m a year salary for churning out regular 6/10 performances, if we choke on the back of a turgid backwards/sideways display on Tuesday, I really don't want him in charge of Bellingham, Foden and co in future years. He is an intelligent, well spoken person, yet does not convince me that he can the best out of us. Would love him (or whoever) to be able to do so.
What if we lose 3-4 with a forward passing, quick movement display? or win 1-0 with a turgid sideways backwards ?
McGuire, Stones , Walker, Henderson , Phillips are average and Kane way off form. Apart from that we have a handful of young decent raw talentwe shouldn’t be playing turgid football with the players we have
Thing is, by semi-final time you expect to have to play good teams, so not really worth looking at any of that.Well if we beat Germany you'd expect england atleast make the semi final again ...
To win the tournament its likely we will now have to beat Germany , Holland and( Italy/Spain or France in the final)
Sounds harder when you look at it that way
Not sure what you want me to say. I want us to win regardless of performance , but would hope we have the players to avoid the turgid route. Which type of performance would you like to see if it made no difference to the result?What if we lose 3-4 with a forward passing, quick movement display? or win 1-0 with a turgid sideways backwards ?
You’ve been saying all tournament we’ll get destroyed by any decent side…Beat Germany it’s Sweden or Ukraine then it’s a semi against either Netherlands Czech wales or Denmark
It’s fucking coming home
Well beat Germany and the slate is wiped clean Clive my endYou’ve been saying all tournament we’ll get destroyed by any decent side…
No team wins international tournaments by playing swashbuckling football all the way through. It’s a fantasy to expect that.Not sure what you want me to say. I want us to win regardless of performance , but would hope we have the players to avoid the turgid route. Which type of performance would you like to see if it made no difference to the result?
Think you answered your own question there. Half of the 11 we have on the pitch warrant themselves to turgid football because they're average at best.Not sure what you want me to say. I want us to win regardless of performance , but would hope we have the players to avoid the turgid route. Which type of performance would you like to see if it made no difference to the result?
Agree - I'd prefer turgid wins over defeat, but I do think we should be serving up better with the players at our disposal. Don't you?Think you answered your own question there. Half of the 11 we have on the pitch warrant themselves to turgid football because they're average at best.
A fair few candidates really. Until Southgate has a dire tournament (and even if we go out to Germany, this isn't it really) then the job's his anyway.If people insist on an English manager those who want Southgate gone who is there to replace him? The Aston Villa manager?
Kenny JackettIf people insist on an English manager those who want Southgate gone who is there to replace him? The Aston Villa manager?
We have to match their system and use wingbacks I think
Isolate Hummels and it’s coming homeso have you changed your mind now? You were saying we were going to get wiped out not so long ago, now we're through you're all bought into it
Fair weather fan
Isolate Hummels and it’s coming home
2 days is an achievement for him, usually it’s every 3 hourswhat has changed in 2 days since you said this:
" A heavy defeat is coming "
Thanks Clive2 days is an achievement for him, usually it’s every 3 hours
A few snippets from Raph Honigstein's article for The Athletic about Germany, interesting to get the view from their side.
Thomas Muller had warned the German public and his team-mates about being overly exuberant after beating Portugal at the weekend. There won’t be any need to repeat that particular message in the wake of one of the worst matches in recent German history on Wednesday night.
RE last night: There were aimless crosses and abortive combinations galore, but no depth, no change of pace, no invention. A painfully languid, eternal build-up game delivered one solitary dangerous situation before the break...
The Nationalmannschaft’s historic strength has been to play like a team with a plan, overcoming individual shortcomings with collective endeavour. This Germany are the opposite.
Against England, you cannot help but think the usual roles will reversed. Gareth Southgate’s are a side entirely defined by game plan, somewhat dull but extremely controlled and coldly functional, whereas Low’s men will arrive in north west London as an entirely unpredictable ensemble of skilful players feeding off willpower rather than any clear blueprint.
Chris wilderKenny Jackett
so have you changed your mind now? You were saying we were going to get wiped out not so long ago, now we're through you're all bought into it
Fair weather fan
I think thats a fair summary
This one is too close to call for me- man for man we should win but we have very little momentum, and our "talisman" is spectacularly off form.
Still can’t believe you haven’t replied to my bet offer being as we will probably match Germany’s wingback system shaw should playHim change his mind? Never
I like his scattergun 50 millions opinions so 1 of them must be right approach.
Still can’t believe you haven’t replied to my bet offer being as we will probably match Germany’s wingback system shaw should play
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