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It’s pathetic. A World Cup where we got lucky and scraped past shite teams before being found out has lead to him getting a free pass for the next 3 tournaments. Joke
It’s pathetic. A World Cup where we got lucky and scraped past shite teams before being found out has lead to him getting a free pass for the next 3 tournaments. Joke
Whilst I don’t dislike him in the same way many seem to, I fail to see why this would even be on the notepad until AFTER the tournament.
Sweden topped a group this tournament with Spain in it. Colombia were also everyone’s ‘dark horses’ going into the tournament.
Some ridiculous revisionism here. We got to a semi final of a World Cup for the first time in my lifetime and people moan.
Sweden are still absolutely shite.
Sweden topped a group this tournament with Spain in it. Colombia were also everyone’s ‘dark horses’ going into the tournament.
Some ridiculous revisionism here. We got to a semi final of a World Cup for the first time in my lifetime and people moan.
Yeah you canonly beat what's in front of you anyway.Sweden topped a group this tournament with Spain in it. Colombia were also everyone’s ‘dark horses’ going into the tournament.
Some ridiculous revisionism here. We got to a semi final of a World Cup for the first time in my lifetime and people moan.
Columbia without James Rodriguez and we still couldn’t beat them in normal time. Sweden were and are shit Croatia were average. Easiest run to a world up final in modern history
You’re clearly going of reputation. In that World Cup, Sweden were better than Germany. With the way Germany were playing, we’d have beaten them anyway.
We could’ve had an easy-ish path in 2010, where we failed to top a really easy group.
Clearly they turn up at major tournaments. They’ve topped their last two group stages with Germany and Spain in them.
They also topped our group in 2002, for good measure.
not at all. You only have to look at their squads. France had to play Belgium (who slapped us twice and beat Brazil) Argentina and Uruguay. The best player we had to play against in the knockouts was Falcao until the semi
They are just organised defensively and that's it.
They don't have any attacking threat whatsoever really. Nearly any other team left in the competition should dispose of them easily, apart from possibly Ukraine, which is who they play next ironically.
Denmark to win and BTTS @9/2.
LG’s banker of the day.
As your username is from a streets song I should also remind you of the song on the same album where he admits to knowing fuck al about betting on football.Denmark to win and BTTS @9/2.
LG’s banker of the day.
Croatia topped Argentina’s group who only just scrapped out of the group with 4 points. Sweden topped Germany’s group.
If those major nations were any good in that tournament, we would have played them.
On reputation, you’re absolutely right. But, clearly Argentina and Germany were by no stretch performing well in that tournament.
I’m sure if we beat Germany on Tuesday the naysayers will point out we beat ‘the weakest Germany team in years’.
If we got to another semi-final this year, I’m sure you’d say we beat a ‘piss poor’ Sweden/Ukraine side when the former had to top a group with Spain in there to get to a quarters.
If you get to a semi final, it’s a successful tournament. There’s just not a strong argument otherwise.
Dry Your Eyes mateAs your username is from a streets song I should also remind you of the song on the same album where he admits to knowing fuck al about betting on football.
i really don’t understand what Germany have to do with it? Croatia topped Argentina’s group and they beat us too? We didn’t beat anyone good.
A successful tournament is one you win. We were a poor side who were only able to beat Tunisia, Panama and Sweden and needed Pens to beat a poor Columbia team. That wasn’t a success.
We’ve been handed another kind draw this time as well and if we don’t make the final it will have been a disaster.
Objectively, Croatia had a better team than us going into that team.
You’ve got players like Young, Lingard and Alli in the starting lineup who didn’t even make the 26 man squad this year. 12 players in that 23 man squad didn’t make it into the 26 man squad for this tournament, of those 12 players, only Lingard made it into the 33 man provisional squad. I haven’t included Pope and Trent-Arnold because they would’ve been in the squad.
Going into the tournament, quarter finals would have been seen as a success because it was probably our weakest squad in my time of supporting England.
If we don’t win the tournament it isn’t a success I’m sorry. If we think otherwise we’re sounding like Scotland and Wales
Sweden topped a group this tournament with Spain in it. Colombia were also everyone’s ‘dark horses’ going into the tournament.
Some ridiculous revisionism here. We got to a semi final of a World Cup for the first time in my lifetime and people moan.
I don't think we are moaning , we recognise that we got to a semi final .
When you break it down , we absolutely should have gotten there ..that's the point.
We lost to Belgium twice and a Croatia which we should have beaten .
When you compare it to Frances route to the final ,they beat every major nation they played after the groups
Argentina , Croatia, Belgium, Uruguay(top 10 at the time)
Yep. According to the rankings etc we over-performed. But due to other 'big' nations falling early on and the luck of the draw we had a much easier route to get there than you'd expect in such a tournament and games that we should have won.
It feels similar this time with an easy-ish group and not the most difficult route in the KO stages. Germany are a good team but look beatable and of the potential opponents in later rounds all of them bar maybe Holland we should be considered favourites, and even that game we shouldn't be looked upon as underdogs, just an even match-up.
It feels like once again we've lucked out in terms of opponents and the thing that is most likely to cost us is us not making the most of what we've got by massively restricting our good attacking options to make up for potential defensive frailties. No way with the opposition faced and attacking options in the squad (never mind some of those that didn't even get in) should we be the lowest scorers out of the qualifiers for the KO stage.
Maybe it will work but my feeling is if we come up against a team that is creative and has attacking intent our defensive style of play will bite us on the arse.
As your username is from a streets song I should also remind you of the song on the same album where he admits to knowing fuck al about betting on football.
I don't think we are moaning , we recognise that we got to a semi final .
When you break it down , we absolutely should have gotten there ..that's the point.
We lost to Belgium twice and a Croatia which we should have beaten .
When you compare it to Frances route to the final ,they beat every major nation they played after the groups
Argentina , Croatia, Belgium, Uruguay(top 10 at the time)
Why the comparison with France? In 2018, their team was miles ahead of us.
As for the Belgium games, look at the team sheets, we did not a play a full strength side. Again, Belgium in 2018 were a world class side and stronger then than they are now.
As for Croatia, we should have seen the game out. But, they had a great midfield, a solid defence and a good striker in Mandzukic. We lost the midfield battle.
That same Croatia team battered Argentina 3-0. Yet, somehow, we were supposed to beat Croatia whilst you laud France for beating Argentina. Who only qualified for the knockout stages with a late goal v Nigeria.
We have spurned opportunities under countless managers. We had an easy group and easy run in 2010, yet we absolutely bottled it.
With Southgate, he just seems to get international management better than past managers we’ve had.
I completely disagree with you on Southgate...completely
What would it take for you to change your mind?
Whilst I don’t dislike him in the same way many seem to, I fail to see why this would even be on the notepad until AFTER the tournament.
Sweden are still absolutely shite.
Not sure really , obvious answer is to win a tournament .
Less obvious more realistic answer to get an England side playing aggressive exciting attractive football ..
I've never been a fan , I'd be delighted for example if I was watching Italy as an Italian right now .
If we beat Germany and got to the sem-final, most reasonable people would have to admit Southgate has done a good job.
Italy a good outfit and really impressed in the group stages. However, the stand out performers in the group tend to go on to win it all.
With Italy, they are a team who historically, are very difficult to beat and their defence gets them deep into major tournaments despite unspectacular performances. In 2006, they conceded 2 goals all tournament.
In knockout football, more often than not, the teams who are solid at the back and do not concede go on to win the tournament.
Sweden are still absolutely shite.
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