shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Bollocks. Vik was a striker and went with that premium. Gus was always a better all round player. Vik does one thing very very well.
And the bit about Hamer being the better player is, once again, showing utter disrespect to Gyokeres.
it was Hamer Robins was willing to sell start of last season ahead of Gyokeres and O'Hare after all, and Gyokeres who went for the most cash. Just because he doesn't play golf or smile as much seems to go against him.
Keep the Hamer love-in going, guys.
Been watching the Spurs game and apart from the free- and corner kicks, Hamer has been pretty quiet. In fact, for the better part of the second half, he's spent it walking around the pitch like he's playing golf. His goal was fortunate, stood at the back of the penalty area for a throw-in. Ball came over, he swung his foot at the ball and it bounced in off the near post.
Either Sheffield don't play to his style or he's made himself comfortable and Sheffield can't afford to bench him. But he is not the same player that excelled for us last season.
What's the one thing ?Bollocks. Vik was a striker and went with that premium. Gus was always a better all round player. Vik does one thing very very well.
What's the one thing ?
What's the one thing ?
What's the one thing ?
His strength/dribbling ability. His finishing was shocking for a 20 a season player, his link up improved after two years here but for a long time he was a poor strike partner too. And useless in the air considering.
He was probably the best forward ive seen here since the premier league
Fast
Powerful
Carries the ball well
Holds it up well
Scores goals
Skillful for a big man
Sublime player at this club
His goal to game ratio at Newcastle is quite impressiveWilson with his first start of the season, scores a penalty. As ever, he's showing his class at this level.
I'm just amazed how quickly his impact and contribution seems to be being written out of City history. Can only assume it's because he's a bit of a blunt moaner really, as it can't be for his footballing contribution, surely?He was probably the best forward ive seen here since the premier league
Fast
Powerful
Carries the ball well
Holds it up well
Scores goals
Skillful for a big man
Sublime player at this club
He's been amazing ever since leaving us really (and was for us too).His goal to game ratio at Newcastle is quite impressive
I'm just amazed how quickly his impact and contribution seems to be being written out of City history. Can only assume it's because he's a bit of a blunt moaner really, as it can't be for his footballing contribution, surely?
He was probably the best forward ive seen here since the premier league
Fast
Powerful
Carries the ball well
Holds it up well
Scores goals
Skillful for a big man
Sublime player at this club
In fairness, shmmeee is correct on his finishing. If he was a pure finisher alongside the rest, he’d have got 40 goals a season and we’d have probably got £40-50m for him. It’s actually to his credit in a way that he still ended with circa 20 goals a season.
Yeah you dont buy him for his goals, ironically enough. You buy him for his all round game, which was simply sensational for us.In fairness, shmmeee is correct on his finishing. If he was a pure finisher alongside the rest, he’d have got 40 goals a season and we’d have probably got £40-50m for him. It’s actually to his credit in a way that he still ended with circa 20 goals a season.
Embarrassing.His strength/dribbling ability. His finishing was shocking for a 20 a season player, his link up improved after two years here but for a long time he was a poor strike partner too. And useless in the air considering.
But still without him we’d have been nowhere in the last two seasons
Yeah you dont buy him for his goals, ironically enough. You buy him for his all round game, which was simply sensational for us.
Over two full seasons, without any letup either. Consistently carried us. More, even, than Wilson during his time here whatever Wilson's doing just atm (and if ever a player deserved countless threads, it's him - Cov kid too of course).
Without Gyokeres, we'd have been nowhere as you could set up with a solid defence that sat back, and guarantee you'd have a puncher's chance with him up front to control the hoof and take on the world.
Hamer is a better footballer technically I would say but it's irrelevant as they play different positions in the team so have differing qualities which are what make them elite in that position.
Hamer would suck playing as a striker and Vik would suck playing central midfield, they were both elite for the championship in the position they played.
Well no as we have also needed to effectively buy a whole new defence as well.This is a dumb discussion - we’ve replaced Gyokeres with £11m of forwards and replaced hamer with a loanee from Brighton - replace hamer with an £11m midfielder and keep Gyokeres would be a better outcome
Ouch. Spreadsheet karma*premier league… but he was never a premier league player in the making anyway
Well no as we have also needed to effectively buy a whole new defence as well.
Well it isn't as the squad needed investment in areas besides central midfield so in your scenario where we just spend the entire Hamer fee on a midfielder and keep Gyokeres, who are we playing in defence?Which is totally irrelevant to the discussion
Well it isn't as the squad needed investment in areas besides central midfield so in your scenario where we just spend the entire Hamer fee on a midfielder and keep Gyokeres, who are we playing in defence?
You also said last season that a key improvement was not conceding first quite so often and the defence being tighter. Having Gyokeres and an equivalent to Hamer would mean nothing if the defence was shipping goals for funI am saying without hamer we’d still be scoring goals if he stayed
You also said last season that a key improvement was not conceding first quite so often and the defence being tighter. Having Gyokeres and an equivalent to Hamer would mean nothing if the defence was shipping goals for fun
How would we have tightened the defence with no money because you've spent it all on one midfielder? What then if that player or Gyokeres gets injured?But we’d still have tightened the defence anyway - this is my point - losing Gyokeres and his goals is a massive blow
How would we have tightened the defence with no money because you've spent it all on one midfielder? What then if that player or Gyokeres gets injured?
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