chiefdave
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Interesting point. Plenty of sports at recreational level have mixed teams, how do they cope? What do non-elite sports that increasingly encourage female officials for games between male teams do?
Interesting point. Plenty of sports at recreational level have mixed teams, how do they cope? What do non-elite sports that increasingly encourage female officials for games between male teams do?A genuine question as I’ve not understood this, but how do women’s teams managed by men or who have male coaches handle the changing room issue?
Needed a trigger warning for this!A young journalist with a bias.
It means unlikely to be as knowledgeable about the issue as the authors are. True of most journalists but especially one who didn't live through the era described by Sharron Davies. A good journalist has to listen well to first hand accounts.Needed a trigger warning for this!
What does their being young or a journalist have to do with it?
Don’t agree with this at all. But then again I would say that.It means unlikely to be as knowledgeable about the issue as the authors are. True of most journalists but especially one who didn't live through the era described by Sharron Davies.
Relaxed I'd say, but with the obvious potential for attraction to develop?A genuine question as I’ve not understood this, but how do women’s teams managed by men or who have male coaches handle the changing room issue?
His wife probably puts bromide in his morning cuppa the day of the gameA genuine question as I’ve not understood this, but how do women’s teams managed by men or who have male coaches handle the changing room issue?
UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.www.bbc.co.uk
You dont need that wig. You can wave your dick about like a windmill, but if you say you're a woman then you're a woman apparrently and can enter all kinds of sporting events.Damn, was just waiting on my wig to arrive so I can knock about the women's changing rooms at Primark and claim I'm a woman.
You dont need that wig. You can wave your dick about like a windmill, but if you say you're a woman then you're a woman apparrently and can enter all kinds of sporting events.
One issue with that....
It's chilly out so not sure it would be very windmilly...
strange one as the westminster government plans amend the EA 2010 anyway to increase trans protections and the judges have specifically said it's not a "victory" for either side as gender reassignment is a protected characteristicUK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.www.bbc.co.uk
strange one as the westminster government plans amend the EA 2010 anyway to increase trans protections and the judges have specifically said it's not a "victory" for either side as gender reassignment is a protected characteristic
... and you can be discriminated against on the basis of your sex as well as your gender. Is there such a thing as cis-phobia?That aligns with the ruling though doesn't it? Essentially that sex as a protected characteristic is biological so trans people need their own protected characteristic. Whether there is an order of precedence though I am not sure.
No, it's that the language of the current act allows there to be sub groups i.e. someone who is trans with a certificate would be classified as per the act as a woman and one without not. Transpeople are still fully protected by the act. This is what Lord Hodge the deputy president of the court said.That aligns with the ruling though doesn't it? Essentially that sex as a protected characteristic is biological so trans people need their own protected characteristic. Whether there is an order of precedence though I am not sure.
I wonder where this leaves the Sandie Peggie case. A woman was suspended from her job as a nurse at a hospital in Kirkcaldy because she objected to a trans-woman doctor using the women's changing facilities at the same time as her. Sounds to me like she had every right to do so under this new ruling.It is certainly a victory for sex based rights.
Single sex spaces are lawful and nobody can identify into the provision for the opposite sex. Whether they have a GRC or not has been ruled irrelevant as the judgment today specifically says that where sex rights are concerned, e.g the right to single sex toilets in a public building, biological sex is the law.
It's the person who delivered who said it wasn't a victory for either side, anyway the EA 2010 is likely to be changed anywayIt is certainly a victory for sex based rights.
Single sex spaces are lawful and nobody can identify into the provision for the opposite sex. Whether they have a GRC or not has been ruled irrelevant as the judgment today specifically says that where sex rights are concerned, e.g the right to single sex toilets in a public building, biological sex is the law.
I think that will become more common over the coming years.What about countries who adopt unisex facilities, obtuse probably but relevant?
that is legal in the uk as well, it's access to places labelled as single sex female that this case was aboutWhat about countries who adopt unisex facilities, obtuse probably but relevant?
There'll be both for a while. Either way - single sex or gender neutral toilets - are both a legal minefield waiting to happen. Offer both and no-one can complain.Government to lay new law to halt the march of gender-neutral toilets in buildings
New requirements will be brought forward for single sex toilet facilities in new non-domestic buildings to alleviate safety, privacy and dignity concerns.www.gov.uk
The opposite is the likely direction of travel. All new facilities which serve the public are required to provide single sex toilets etc. This is statutory.
The current government will not rescind this. They will claim to have been all for it all along.
There'll be both for a while. Either way - single sex or gender neutral toilets - are both a legal minefield waiting to happen. Offer both and no-one can complain.
Can you share an example of such a case?Yeah but what about the blokes covered in tattoos who whack on a wig so they can go to women's prisons? Do they need their own prisons building too?
Can you share an example of such a case?
I asked as the answer to your question was in the same article. It’s dealt with case by case.Isla Bryson: Transgender rapist jailed for eight years
The case sparked a heated debate over whether Bryson should be held in a male or a female prison.www.bbc.co.uk
Double rapist. Decided he was a woman just after he was charged.
15 seconds to google that one.
Trans inmate jailed for Wakefield prison sex offences
Karen White was jailed for sexually assaulting two inmates and raping two women outside prison.www.bbc.co.uk
30 seconds more there's this one, granted no visible tattoos. Decided to be a woman when on remand.
Could be a wing for them somewhere.Yeah but what about the blokes covered in tattoos who whack on a wig so they can go to women's prisons? Do they need their own prisons building too?
That's quite obvious to filter out, how a ten or twenty year commitment?
I asked as the answer to your question was in the same article. It’s dealt with case by case.
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