chiefdave
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Interesting point. Plenty of sports at recreational level have mixed teams, how do they cope? What do non-elite sports that increasingly encourage female officials for games between male teams do?
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Needed a trigger warning for this!
What does their being young or a journalist have to do with it?
Don’t agree with this at all. But then again I would say that.
Relaxed I'd say, but with the obvious potential for attraction to develop?
Gynnsthetonic
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His wife probably puts bromide in his morning cuppa the day of the game
oakey
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FA not making football ‘fair or safe’ for women by inaction over transgender policy
Lord Triesman, former FA chairman, complains to current leaders about players being threatened for raising concerns about trans opponents
www.telegraph.co.uk
Will the authorities ever wake up and protect women's sport?
fernandopartridge
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UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.
www.bbc.co.uk
Nick
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UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.
Damn, was just waiting on my wig to arrive so I can knock about the women's changing rooms at Primark and claim I'm a woman.
rob9872
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You dont need that wig. You can wave your dick about like a windmill, but if you say you're a woman then you're a woman apparrently and can enter all kinds of sporting events.
Nick
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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David O'Day
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strange one as the westminster government plans amend the EA 2010 anyway to increase trans protections and the judges have specifically said it's not a "victory" for either side as gender reassignment is a protected characteristicUK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while cautioning that the landmark ruling should not be seen as victory of one side over another.
fernandopartridge
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That aligns with the ruling though doesn't it? Essentially that sex as a protected characteristic is biological so trans people need their own protected characteristic. Whether there is an order of precedence though I am not sure.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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... and you can be discriminated against on the basis of your sex as well as your gender. Is there such a thing as cis-phobia?
David O'Day
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No, it's that the language of the current act allows there to be sub groups i.e. someone who is trans with a certificate would be classified as per the act as a woman and one without not. Transpeople are still fully protected by the act. This is what Lord Hodge the deputy president of the court said.
If and when Westminster rewords the act then the problem goes away, say for example if the specify that as per this act all trans women are women then the court has no problem with it.
oakey
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It is certainly a victory for sex based rights.
Single sex spaces are lawful and nobody can identify into the provision for the opposite sex. Whether they have a GRC or not has been ruled irrelevant as the judgment today specifically says that where sex rights are concerned, e.g the right to single sex toilets in a public building, biological sex is the law.
Single sex spaces are lawful and nobody can identify into the provision for the opposite sex. Whether they have a GRC or not has been ruled irrelevant as the judgment today specifically says that where sex rights are concerned, e.g the right to single sex toilets in a public building, biological sex is the law.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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I wonder where this leaves the Sandie Peggie case. A woman was suspended from her job as a nurse at a hospital in Kirkcaldy because she objected to a trans-woman doctor using the women's changing facilities at the same time as her. Sounds to me like she had every right to do so under this new ruling.
David O'Day
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It's the person who delivered who said it wasn't a victory for either side, anyway the EA 2010 is likely to be changed anyway
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I think that will become more common over the coming years.
David O'Day
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that is legal in the uk as well, it's access to places labelled as single sex female that this case was about
oakey
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Government to lay new law to halt the march of gender-neutral toilets in buildings
New requirements will be brought forward for single sex toilet facilities in new non-domestic buildings to alleviate safety, privacy and dignity concerns.
The opposite is the likely direction of travel. All new facilities which serve the public are required to provide single sex toilets etc. This is statutory.
The current government will not rescind this. They will claim to have been all for it all along.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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There'll be both for a while. Either way - single sex or gender neutral toilets - are both a legal minefield waiting to happen. Offer both and no-one can complain.Government to lay new law to halt the march of gender-neutral toilets in buildings
New requirements will be brought forward for single sex toilet facilities in new non-domestic buildings to alleviate safety, privacy and dignity concerns.www.gov.uk
The opposite is the likely direction of travel. All new facilities which serve the public are required to provide single sex toilets etc. This is statutory.
The current government will not rescind this. They will claim to have been all for it all along.
Nick
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Yeah but what about the blokes covered in tattoos who whack on a wig so they can go to women's prisons? Do they need their own prisons building too?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Can you share an example of such a case?
Nick
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Isla Bryson: Transgender rapist jailed for eight years
The case sparked a heated debate over whether Bryson should be held in a male or a female prison.
www.bbc.co.uk
Double rapist. Decided he was a woman just after he was charged.
15 seconds to google that one.
Trans inmate jailed for Wakefield prison sex offences
Karen White was jailed for sexually assaulting two inmates and raping two women outside prison.
www.bbc.co.uk
30 seconds more there's this one, granted no visible tattoos. Decided to be a woman when on remand.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I asked as the answer to your question was in the same article. It’s dealt with case by case.Isla Bryson: Transgender rapist jailed for eight years
The case sparked a heated debate over whether Bryson should be held in a male or a female prison.
Double rapist. Decided he was a woman just after he was charged.
15 seconds to google that one.
Trans inmate jailed for Wakefield prison sex offences
Karen White was jailed for sexually assaulting two inmates and raping two women outside prison.
30 seconds more there's this one, granted no visible tattoos. Decided to be a woman when on remand.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Could be a wing for them somewhere.
Nick
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To be honest, I know it's the "in between" but I do see people who have had years of therapy and whatever before and then gone through all of the surgeries to become a woman, a lot different to those 2 I posted. I doubt even if they were in a womens changing room it would be noticed either most of the time.
However when there's a heavy breathing tattoo'd nonce in there with a shit wig and a semi, it's a bit different. (before anybody says it, I don't have any tattoos)
Grendel
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Men shouldn’t be allowed to share spaces with women if the woman feels uncomfortable about it