Family zone ticket exchange (1 Viewer)

[bigfatronssba]

How many kids will be able to attend that many midweek games ? Not surprised at all by these statistics . I wonder how many Saturday matches are actually missed compared to midweek matches. I doubt it's anywhere near 1/3 and the club would know.
Loads will miss matches in August because they're on holiday, whatever the penalty.

That’s fine. Put them on the exchange.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect season ticket holders to attend 50% of games

 

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[chiefdave]

....that'll change before long , Dave, if this is deemed to " work"

I don't see any business case for that unless the entire ground is sold out week in week out. It's being implemented here as demand far outstrips supply. It's supposedly sold out yet we can all see loads of empty seats even on Saturday 3pm kick offs.

What would be the benefit to blocking people from buying season tickets in the rest of the ground where supply is greater than demand?

tbh I'd love us to get to a point where there's so much demand for tickets we could consider needing this sort of scheme covering the entire stadium.

 

[pusbccfc]

I wonder what will happen if you can't attend, let's say, a midweek game with an expected turn out of no more than 23k.
You inform the club accordingly. The club fails to sell your ticket (s).
Does that count towards your three strikes? Do the club inform you the ticket was sold or not ?
No one wanted your seat and therefore you haven't deprived anyone else .
But as a season ticket holder you need to know where you stand .

No, obviously not. If the club don't sell it, it's their problem. Not yours.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

That’s fine. Put them on the exchange.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect season ticket holders to attend 50% of games

Does the season ticket holder benefit directly by putting their tickets on the " exchange" or doesn't the club actually know what that is yet ?

 

[pusbccfc]

not sure how anyone can laud this idea

1) you buy a season ticket, that’s your ticket for the season. you’ve bought into the process and adding funds to the club. what you do with that ticket is your prerogative

2) ticket exchange only works if the cbs is sold out week on week which it won’t be while still in the championship. even the games where we ‘sold out’ there were tickets available the day before.

3) Doug was happy to take money and not worry about non attendance after the United game was announced. many bought tickets just for points and not bother with the game (Ipswich and hull games prime example)

1) Read the T&Cs of any club. The season ticket isn't yours. It remains the property of the club.

2) The Family Zone was the first and almost only area of the stadium fully sold out. It's a high demand area. Tickets have never been available in that area.

3) Completely irrelevant to the Family Zone.

 

[pusbccfc]

Does the season ticket holder benefit directly by putting their tickets on the " exchange" or doesn't the club actually know what that is yet ?

They haven't announced but every other club offers something back.

Usually 1/23rd of your season ticket back in credit for next season.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

No, obviously not. If the club don't sell it, it's their problem. Not yours.

The club may not get involved at all.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

1) Read the T&Cs of any club. The season ticket isn't yours. It remains the property of the club.

2) The Family Zone was the first and almost only area of the stadium fully sold out. It's a high demand area. Tickets have never been available in that area.

3) Completely irrelevant to the Family Zone.

They'd be a bit silly not to introduce a waiting list if demand is very high.

 

[pusbccfc]

The club may not get involved at all.

It will be a box to click on the ticket site. Once you've clicked it, your ticket won't work for that game and the club will have it on sale on the seating map. It may not sell but you won't need to worry about that.

 

[pusbccfc]

They'd be a bit silly not to introduce a waiting list if demand is very high.

Possibly, but there will be availability this year because you'd imagine people won't buy them for the sake of a cheap ticket this year knowing they have to attend most games.

 

[Grendel]

King isn’t bothered about empty seats it’s about getting revenue from the one concession area.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Possibly, but there will be availability this year because you'd imagine people won't buy them for the sake of a cheap ticket this year knowing they have to attend most games.

And the scammers would hopefully have been put off by the new rules.

So hopefully more families struggling for cash can now get significantly discounted season tickets

 

[pusbccfc]

King isn’t bothered about empty seats it’s about getting revenue from the one concession area.

Well no, but if we're playing Derby or Leeds next season and it's sold out, it's annoying that 1000 seats are empty when they could be resold.

People couldn't buy tickets for the Leeds and Leicester games and yet the Family Zone was full of empty seats.

 

[CCFCSteve]

King isn’t bothered about empty seats it’s about getting revenue from the one concession area.

If he was that bothered he’d have just put up the prices, which are a bargain

The additional revenue from FZ ticket resale will be fuck all in the grand scheme of things. As has been shown by frozen ticket prices this is clearly about stopping people abusing the family zone pricing and it not being fully utilised on match days

 

[bigfatronssba]

If he was that bothered he’d have just put up the prices, which are a bargain

The additional revenue from FZ ticket resale will be fuck all in the grand scheme of things. As has been shown by frozen ticket prices this is clearly about stopping people abusing the family zone pricing and it not being fully utilised on match days

If he was that bothered he’d have just put up the prices, which are a bargain

The additional revenue from FZ ticket resale will be fuck all in the grand scheme of things. As has been shown by frozen ticket prices this is clearly about stopping people abusing the family zone pricing and it not being fully utilised on match days

If he was that bothered he’d have just put up the prices, which are a bargain

The additional revenue from FZ ticket resale will be fuck all in the grand scheme of things. As has been shown by frozen ticket prices this is clearly about stopping people abusing the family zone pricing and it not being fully utilised on match days

And also about maximising the draw for the fans of the future.

 

[Grendel]

And also about maximising the draw for the fans of the future.

What’s to stop someone buying re-sell tickets for a sell out game and the “child” is ill that night?

 

[bigfatronssba]

What’s to stop someone buying re-sell tickets for a sell out game and the “child” is ill that night?

Absolutely nothing. But you can’t stop all wrongdoing.

Just like there’s nothing to stop someone bringing in a Novichok nerve agent and killing us all.

It’s all about likelihood

 

[pusbccfc]

What’s to stop someone buying re-sell tickets for a sell out game and the “child” is ill that night?

Well the club have made an extra £10 or so.

 

[Grendel]

Absolutely nothing. But you can’t stop all wrongdoing.

Just like there’s nothing to stop someone bringing in a Novichok nerve agent and killing us all.

It’s all about likelihood

Well that’s a rational comparison

 

[bigfatronssba]

Well that’s a rational comparison

Its equally hypothetical

 

[chiefdave]

Absolutely nothing. But you can’t stop all wrongdoing.

Other industries, airlines and hotels spring to mind, get around this issue by overbooking. Sure there would be no complaints at all if people were turning up to games and not being let in because too many tickets had been sold in a particular area.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

What’s to stop someone buying re-sell tickets for a sell out game and the “child” is ill that night?

Perhaps if your child has chicken pox you will have to get a doctor's note .

 

[Nick]

I wonder what will happen if you can't attend, let's say, a midweek game with an expected turn out of no more than 23k.
You inform the club accordingly. The club fails to sell your ticket (s).
Does that count towards your three strikes? Do the club inform you the ticket was sold or not ?
No one wanted your seat and therefore you haven't deprived anyone else .
But as a season ticket holder you need to know where you stand .

From what they have said, you get the strike for not going (regardless of them selling it again)

 

[wingy]

Other industries, airlines and hotels spring to mind, get around this issue by overbooking. Sure there would be no complaints at all if people were turning up to games and not being let in because too many tickets had been sold in a particular area.

I'd expect them to be penalised legally TBF!! So it's undesirable!!

 

[GIMOC]

1) Read the T&Cs of any club. The season ticket isn't yours. It remains the property of the club.

2) The Family Zone was the first and almost only area of the stadium fully sold out. It's a high demand area. Tickets have never been available in that area.

3) Completely irrelevant to the Family Zone.

1) when you purchase a season ticket, that seat is yours. Simple as that. if this is a money making and greed to sell a seat twice over then it’s wrong imo.

2) it’s a high demand area because of prices. if the seat is sold on the exchange platform it will be sold at full ticket price which goes back to point 1

3) you don’t believe this won’t be rolled out across the ground. its a trial and will be used further down the line if the uptake is there. unused seats seem to be an issue when it suits. didnt see uproar with loads of empty seats for Ipswich and hull

 

[pusbccfc]

1) when you purchase a season ticket, that seat is yours. Simple as that. if this is a money making and greed to sell a seat twice over then it’s wrong imo.

2) it’s a high demand area because of prices. if the seat is sold on the exchange platform it will be sold at full ticket price which goes back to point 1

3) you don’t believe this won’t be rolled out across the ground. its a trial and will be used further down the line if the uptake is there. unused seats seem to be an issue when it suits. didnt see uproar with loads of empty seats for Ipswich and hull

It's not, the season ticket remains owned by the club. It's the second line in the T&C's. Hence why you cannot resell it yourself.

You're right, the demand is high because of the prices but it was sold out. Hence the news to resale/exchanges. It should be sold at a full price like any normal ticket. Although that full price should still be cheaper due to it being the family zone (I'm certain it will be).

It absolutely won't be rolled out around the ground until we sell out every match. You seem to be missing the point. This was an issue in every single game. It's not trying to penalise people missing the odd game. It's to stop people buying an adult ticket for £250 and deciding to turn up to a handful of games. It's so cheap that people could afford to buy one and go on holiday for 6 months and it not to matter. When you pay £400, you can't really afford to miss more than a few games.

 

[GIMOC]

It's not, the season ticket remains owned by the club. It's the second line in the T&C's. Hence why you cannot resell it yourself.

You're right, the demand is high because of the prices but it was sold out. Hence the news to resale/exchanges. It should be sold at a full price like any normal ticket. Although that full price should still be cheaper due to it being the family zone (I'm certain it will be).

It absolutely won't be rolled out around the ground until we sell out every match. You seem to be missing the point. This was an issue in every single game. It's not trying to penalise people missing the odd game. It's to stop people buying an adult ticket for £250 and deciding to turn up to a handful of games. It's so cheap that people could afford to buy one and go on holiday for 6 months and it not to matter. When you pay £400, you can't really afford to miss more than a few games.

like i said once you commit and purchase a season ticket, its your choice whether you attend every game or not especially with the amount of games not on a Saturday. agree with the empty seats but same applies for the point grabbers for Wembley but didn’t hear a moan about that

the family zone is to entice families to watch and support the club. midweek games for young kids is hard. anyone with a child knows this. especially young 6-8 year olds. so does that mean a parent who took out the family zone and can’t take a young child to a midweek game can’t go either? its silly argument. I cant imagine resale platform selling out for midweek games because of that

 

[Johnnythespider]

Just out of curiosity is there anyone on here who missed 10 games last season because it was a school night ?

 

[wingy]

It's not, the season ticket remains owned by the club. It's the second line in the T&C's. Hence why you cannot resell it yourself.

You're right, the demand is high because of the prices but it was sold out. Hence the news to resale/exchanges. It should be sold at a full price like any normal ticket. Although that full price should still be cheaper due to it being the family zone (I'm certain it will be).

It absolutely won't be rolled out around the ground until we sell out every match. You seem to be missing the point. This was an issue in every single game. It's not trying to penalise people missing the odd game. It's to stop people buying an adult ticket for £250 and deciding to turn up to a handful of games. It's so cheap that people could afford to buy one and go on holiday for 6 months and it not to matter. When you pay £400, you can't really afford to miss more than a few games.

I don't think it will be tbf but who knows

 

[wingy]

Just out of curiosity is there anyone on here who missed 10 games last season because it was a school night ?

I don't think from about the age 7-8Josh suffered from his mom thinking he wouldn't get enough sleep, but since then no objections!

 

[Alkhen]

like i said once you commit and purchase a season ticket, its your choice whether you attend every game or not especially with the amount of games not on a Saturday. agree with the empty seats but same applies for the point grabbers for Wembley but didn’t hear a moan about that

the family zone is to entice families to watch and support the club. midweek games for young kids is hard. anyone with a child knows this. especially young 6-8 year olds. so does that mean a parent who took out the family zone and can’t take a young child to a midweek game can’t go either? its silly argument. I cant imagine resale platform selling out for midweek games because of that

The Family Zone prices are a bargain, the 10 game non attendance limit really isn't that unreasonable and probably won't be that harshly policed. I think it's just an attempt to stop people just taking up the free kids ticket on the off chance they 'might' use it rather than make it more difficult for families.

The resale system is a good idea as in the big games it will free up some much needed space.

You obviously still have your Doug vendetta which at this point is almost as pathetic as believing in chem trails. Get over it

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Its equally hypothetical

Equally? I'd like to think the chances of a child being unwell and unable to go is greater than someone bringing in novichok.

 

[pusbccfc]

like i said once you commit and purchase a season ticket, its your choice whether you attend every game or not especially with the amount of games not on a Saturday. agree with the empty seats but same applies for the point grabbers for Wembley but didn’t hear a moan about that

the family zone is to entice families to watch and support the club. midweek games for young kids is hard. anyone with a child knows this. especially young 6-8 year olds. so does that mean a parent who took out the family zone and can’t take a young child to a midweek game can’t go either? its silly argument. I cant imagine resale platform selling out for midweek games because of that

I'm not sure that many bought tickets just for points. I hear this about most away games. Why would you spend £37 and not go? Bit different to having a dirt cheap season ticket and not going. People are taking advantage of the cheapest season ticket in the League and not using it. That's not fair when the area is sold out. Why should others miss the opportunity for a cheaper ticket because of them?

You're right, it is difficult to go midweeks, hence why they are allowing a resale system. Some parents may allow their kids to go those games and will take advantage of a (hopefully) cheaper resale ticket.

The system was cheated and some people bought tickets and didn't use them. The alternative would be increasing the prices in the Family Zone and that's not right.

 

[wingy]

I'm not sure that many bought tickets just for points. I hear this about most away games. Why would you spend £37 and not go? Bit different to having a dirt cheap season ticket and not going. People are taking advantage of the cheapest season ticket in the League and not using it. That's not fair when the area is sold out. Why should others miss the opportunity for a cheaper ticket because of them?

You're right, it is difficult to go midweeks, hence why they are allowing a resale system. Some parents may allow their kids to go those games and will take advantage of a (hopefully) cheaper resale ticket.

The system was cheated and some people bought tickets and didn't use them. The alternative would be increasing the prices in the Family Zone and that's not right.

Or an age limit?
And accept that parents are not going to be able to allow to attend at all on midweek?
What would be acceptable to everyone?10?

 

[pusbccfc]

Or an age limit?
And accept that parents are not going to be able to allow to attend at all on midweek?
What would be acceptable to everyone?10?

10 is how many times you're allowed to exchange tickets. That's more than fair.