Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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No they're not
No they're notJust to quantify - Rushden and Diamonds - extinct.
No they're not
Tell that to a guy at work and the hundreds who go every weekYes they are. The club that now exists is AFC R&D - not the original club.
You are arguing semantics - the fact is that the original Rushden and Diamonds had a fan ownership model and went bust. And they were given a ground for free.Tell that to a guy at work and the hundreds who go every week
And we're shafted. However the fans that go still consider themselves as Rushden and Diamonds fans.You are arguing semantics - the fact is that the original Rushden and Diamonds had a fan ownership model and went bust. And they were given a ground for free.
Yes they wouldAFC Wimbledon same fans as Wimbledon FC so in every logical way the same club. Do they believe their club died? I don't think so. Same with R and D.
I don't understand why it is possible for Portsmouth fans to take over their club and make a decent job of it but that for Coventry it would never work. We are a bigger city, bigger historical and potential fan base yet it would never work here, why not? The Pompey Trust guy alluded to the fact that not all of their supporters were behind their take over. I think the majority of City fans would welcome a supporters take over if it meant Sisu were gone. An initial take over by fans does not mean that a sale to other owners at a time in the future cannot happen. We need to have owners who care, will stabilise and will stop the downward spiral. If the choice was supporter owned or Sisu owned would some supporters seriously choose Sisu?
I can't believe that any City fan with the interests of the club at heart would choose Sisu.Yes they would
AFC Wimbledon same fans as Wimbledon FC so in every logical way the same club. Do they believe their club died? I don't think so. Same with R and D.
Who is choosing Sisu? People are saying Portsmouth had a massive amount of help, including from the local council. Something that history tells us, we wouldn't receive.AFC Wimbledon same fans as Wimbledon FC so in every logical way the same club. Do they believe their club died? I don't think so. Same with R and D.
I don't understand why it is possible for Portsmouth fans to take over their club and make a decent job of it but that for Coventry it would never work. We are a bigger city, bigger historical and potential fan base yet it would never work here, why not? The Pompey Trust guy alluded to the fact that not all of their supporters were behind their take over. I think the majority of City fans would welcome a supporters take over if it meant Sisu were gone. An initial take over by fans does not mean that a sale to other owners at a time in the future cannot happen. We need to have owners who care, will stabilise and will stop the downward spiral. If the choice was supporter owned or Sisu owned would some supporters seriously choose Sisu?
I suggest you read this thread and other similar ones the thought of any sort of fan involment horrifies someI can't believe that any City fan with the interests of the club at heart would choose Sisu.
I suggest you read this thread and other similar ones the thought of any sort of fan involment horrifies some
It horrifies me if you and some of the other drama queens on here were to be involved.I suggest you read this thread and other similar ones the thought of any sort of fan involment horrifies some
There are some who just seem dead set against fan ownership and do not seem able to accept that it could ever happen here. It would be interesting to see if anyone would say that yes they would prefer Sisu to stay in preference to a fan owned CCFC.Don't be so melodramatic - people are asking legitimate questions that as yet no one can answer.
Who's being melodramatic? Every time it's mentioned you're there with overwhelmingly negative reactions. Yet at the same time accept the decline of the club under the present owners. Why is that?Don't be so melodramatic - people are asking legitimate questions that as yet no one can answer.
Who's being melodramatic? Every time it's mentioned you're there with overwhelmingly negative reactions. Yet at the same time accept the decline of the club under the present owners. Why is that?
I think any potential fan led takeover would have to be led by people not part of the Trust/protest group hierarchy now or in the recent past.
If someone can come up with a viable response to 'who pay the bills in the off-season' and 'who pays for a manager to be able to sign a player, pay a signing on fee/transfer and for a contract longer than 12 months' than you may have far more people behind the notion.
Yes they are. The club that now exists is AFC R&D - not the original club.
I'd say the position we are in is just a tad worse than a drama but if you're happy with it fine.It horrifies me if you and some of the other drama queens on here were to be involved.
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You are arguing semantics - the fact is that the original Rushden and Diamonds had a fan ownership model and went bust. And they were given a ground for free.
You're assuming that there will a next owner.Do you want to keep repeating the same mistakes with the next owner?
Ahh, the good old "you must be happy with Sisu".I'd say the position we are in is just a tad worse than a drama but if you're happy with it fine.
Do you want to keep repeating the same mistakes with the next owner?
At least you know who we are never hidden it. Come out of the shadows you might find it enlightening, no not going to happen is it.Ahh, the good old "you must be happy with Sisu".
You're as predictable as your boring chuckle brother.
Goodnight.
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AFC Wimbledon same fans as Wimbledon FC so in every logical way the same club. Do they believe their club died? I don't think so. Same with R and D.
So most of the AFC Wimbledon fans are alll new supporters? They've really done well then.I'm glad you said think. Because you are wrong. A mate of mine was a Wimbledon suporter. He now doesn't have a club. He watches other clubs. I am working on him supporting usThe majority of them didn't follow to MK or the club that started again. On April 1st we are going to Chelsea v Palace. His son is a STH with Palace. Then we are going to Wembley together. Try telling him that most went on to AFC Wimbledon. He knows differently.
Look at their support. They are young on average to most clubs. Of course some moved to the new club. They started it after all.So most of the AFC Wimbledon fans are alll new supporters? They've really done well then.
I know about Rushden and Wimbledon because I work with guys that are supported of both. Also one from oxford and unfortunately a Villa fan who worked with me in brum and transferred to Coventry when we shut the factory there. As an aside never got grief from the villa fans there the blue noses that's a different story.Look at their support. They are young on average to most clubs. Of course some moved to the new club. They started it after all.
If you know I am wrong why don't you tell my mate when we are in London? Most he went with don't bother anymore. So is just him and the supporters that he knows and nearly everyone else carried on going?
What amazes me is how much some of our supporters know about other clubs and their supporters. I would know nothing about them if my mate hadn't been a supporter of them for over 20 years. And some of our supporters know more about them than he does.
It could be funded by the fans and player sales. So basically the same as it is now. Minus the hedge fund.
But you was telling us about the Wimbledon supportersI know about Rushden and Wimbledon because I work with guys that are supported of both. Also one from oxford and unfortunately a Villa fan who worked with me in brum and transferred to Coventry when we shut the factory there. As an aside never got grief from the villa fans there the blue noses that's a different story.
I said that AFC Wimbledon was started by some of their supporters. But look back at what was said. The majority of their supporters didn't follow on to AFC. They picked up supporters as they went through the non league levels.The fact that AFC exists at all is because the original fans made sure it didn't die. It is not surprising that in the near 20 years since the formation of AFC that the demographic of the fans changes. How many younger fans post on here and say they have never known anything but misery and gloom as they have only watched City from 2003 onwards. I have supported our club for 50 years but could not tell you the details of who has supported us for one year or for 60 years. I see the same faces when I go to games but wouldn't recognise all 9k of our regular fan base. I would think it will be the same for your mate. The fact is that AFC was formed by Wimbledon supporters who continued to support the club as it progressed through the leagues. No doubt some left and some arrived. I would be surprised if the hard core of support who kept the club going are not still Wimbledon fans if they are still around and going to football.
If our club went to the wall, I have no doubt that an AFC Coventry City would be born. Everyone would have the choice to give up on football, support someone else or support the Phoenix club. For me if they played in sky blue, played in Coventry etc I would support them and from my point of view see them as a continuation of CCFC. Others would be free to see things differently. The fact is that there is a possibility that CCFC may not exist in the future. That's not melodrama, that is looking at where we are heading and remembering what Seppala said about liquidation.
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