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oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
give me a chance ......... :laugh:
here you go..........
Its complicated
what income do they want and why should thay have it they didnt and havent invested in it
cant just give income away
football related income wont be enough - hotel exhibitions are not football related most clubs dont have those and survive
Council etc have track record of helping club and importantly the city of coventry
hedge funds are driven by one thing only - MONEY - they dont care about community or regeneration of city
need to talk as much as possible but then make a decision
best decision might be take your loss/investment away SISU and start with new club supported by ACL Council, Charity and fans
hows that ?
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Dont worry LBB I have plenty of energy and she is a happy ladyPlus she has learnt to switch off and not hear when i go off on one about CCFC :laugh:
You could teach my Raul a thing or two about stamina OSB-these Latinos really can't hack it.
LeamingtonBootBoy
New Member
Hey, Torchy, you miserable cry baby...you reading this? It's called banter.
Twat!
Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
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oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
with that I am heading home to my good lady, and a well earned break from CCFC for a couple of days ......... have a good bank holiday all :wave:
:wave:LeamingtonBootBoy
New Member
Have fun...and use precautions, OSB....
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Take care! It'll take us that long to catch up with your posts
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
You alright?
Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
It certainly isnt simple Paxman thats for sure
I would like to know exactly which income streams they are looking for.......... just the football related ones or are we saying the exhibition halls, the hotel, the casino etc. You see all of those are quite independent of the football club. Most clubs will not have those facilities and it could be argued that CCFC have no right to them in that sense. Most clubs do not have it and "survive" Not only that all those outlets are locked into a 10 year multi - million pound service supply deal with Compass. The club have not invested in those income sources, it isnt as if they had them and had to give them up now want them back. ACL would have to break that supply contract - Compass would be entitled to compensation. it gets more complicated the more you look at it
Giving away income streams or discounting them has serious effects on the value of charitable and public money investments. Ok yes so would bankruptcy of the club - if alternatives were not found. But right now what is CCFC worth to ACL? they are not generating anything and not paying the rent
So we are talking about the pitch area and perhaps some catering outlets?. So they could get the odd concert there on the pitch maybe get match day and pitch event parking. But it isn't 100% profit and isn't going to wipe away the losses. It isnt going to provide much for players
From your last paragraph post 59 it seems i am not alone at looking for cloak and daggers
It seems there is an assumption for some posters that ACL Council and Charity are unwilling to meet and talk and try to assist - I do not see why this is so when you consider their track record over the years. Yes as tims suggests there is a lot of jockeying for position but is there a willingness on the part of the owners to approach talks in a manner where they are prepared to listen, provide proof, to offer, to show a commitment and a plan ...... or is it simply about the money and to minimise the capital loss.
In a costings report from the council there is a mission statement for the project that talks of developing the fabric of the area, developing and involving the community, the social aspects, the employment and regeneration aspects. Can anyone see the owners truly buying into that and what is best for the city ? the council etc know how important CCFC is to the city of Coventry, I would suggest far better than SISU, but it is this importance to the city that SISU are relying on to try to rescue their clients money. Lets be clear hedge funds are driven by one thing and one thing only - MONEY
Yes all parties need to talk talk and talk again I totally agree but at some point there has to be a decision. That decision might be take your loss SISU ...... the city of Coventry will rebuild its team from a clean slate with lots of support from the council, the charity, other bodies and businesses and importantly the fans. Closing the doors on the current CCFC might not be ideal but it might turn out to be the best long term option for the club and city. The council ACL and Charity are not here to make money for SISU - thats just business as you say
Superbly illustrative of what the situation is. You should enter politics or journalism, OSB! If only the CT would ask some of the questions that you pose.
LeamingtonBootBoy
New Member
Maybe OSB is Geoffrey Robinson.....:thinking about:
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Asked that earlier jas, doesn't seem as though anyone did. Word is that Fisher encouraged people to speak to him personally-if so, that's probably our best shout.
6 Generations
Well-Known Member
She has been over worked knocking them in for Schalke!!
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
She? I'm offended!
Otis
Well-Known Member
I think you may be on to something. The 58 at the end of the moniker would be to symbolise just how many houses he's got.
coundonskyblue
New Member
OSB actually seems to know about finances. Also the way his posts are written suggest he is soba while writing.
That rules Geoffrey out on both counts.
How do yoyu know there is'nt two way Communication,Fisher already knows the games up for Sisu,reels off Platitudes of how Gary's a fan but without means,When this is all over its possible we'll find he's closer to Gh than Sisu.
Wrenstreetcarpark
New Member
OSB posts at all times of the day. Robinson isn't pissed for about an hour in the morning. OSB doesn't lie. Robinson finds it difficult to tell the truth, but I will excuse him that because he doesn't know the difference. He just says things that he thinks will work and then believes his own lies. He is one fucked up drunken old fool.
OSB is no fool. Doesn't appear to be drunk. Doesn't lie. From his Sky Blue history isn't 70 years old and doesn't live in Godalming. That makes it impossible for him to be that twat Robinson.
PS No, I don't really like GR.
mustaphasbeard
New Member
Hey, Torchy, you miserable cry baby...you reading this? It's called banter.
Twat!
Says the man who used to run to Fred the mod at every opportunity
Nick
Administrator
Its like a bunch of kids! This isnt the cet site, if people have problems then pm! Grown men acting like kids is embarassing and cringeworthy!
sky blue zam
Member
Tim Fisher said it was him who is holding back the rent, he took a "political decision". didnt really have an answer to many questions and was a bit patronising with some suggestions by fans.
skybluehugh
New Member
I truly believe being in the 3rd devision is just what shitsu wanted in the first place so they could pull this stunt with ACL and council. If they had really wanted us to stay in the Championship they wouldn't have sold our top scorer in January or stuck with the worst manager we have had in my time as a fan. THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN CCFC AND NEVER HAVE. They want the arena which can make them money thats why they brought us in the first place.
cloughie
Well-Known Member
Well said OSB
The sooner some people stop falling for this sisu propagander of it's all all the councils fault that CCFC can't afford the rent and if they lowered it then everything will be ok, is untrue . CCFC will still be loosing money without paying any rent.
As you say 'The council ACL and Charity are not here to make money for SISU - thats just business as you say'
Or like Niklaus Bedtner, the millions he has in the bank....:facepalm:
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
I can be insulted yanno ! Geoffrey Robinson !!!!! and think i have just been greatly insulted pah ----- LBB we need a chat :laugh::laugh::laugh: malicious rumours ! Thanks WSC & CSB for defending my honour :claping hands:
as for 58 houses or millions ......... only in my dreams and then some ! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
back to work then ...................
! Geoffrey Robinson !!!!! and think i have just been greatly insulted pah ----- LBB we need a chat :laugh::laugh::laugh: malicious rumours ! Thanks WSC & CSB for defending my honour :claping hands:as for 58 houses or millions ......... only in my dreams and then some ! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
back to work then ...................
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