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Sky · Aug 11, 2011

Maybe SISU hire actors to ask questions that are nothing to do with what we want to talk about to avoid answering decent questions?

Trond Egil Soltvedt · Aug 11, 2011

ive just got back from it, was lots of hands up and not enough questions, clouting had no answers waste of my evening to be honest.

have a lot of time and respect for Andy Thorn, guy trying to do a job on a tightrope with his arms tied round his back
"Andy has a budget and with that budget he sorts out the football side" - Paul Clouting has no money
"the chairman said Andy has the exact same budget as Aidy last season, but footballs a changing business"- Paul Clouting we have no money

Think the whole room felt genuinely for Andy - been fucked over.
Clouting dodged every question regarding player transfers ie - andy has a budget and is responsible for it - the guy is a grade A tosser who knows jack about football

gary_ccfcforever · Aug 11, 2011

when Ben is sold dont be surprised if he is miraculously fully fit straight away for his new club....

stevo_ccfc · Aug 11, 2011

I've just come back from it and the main thing I noticed is that every time a question was asked about funds for players thorn smirked as clouting squirmed

torchomatic · Aug 11, 2011

Aah, I remember how much RR used to get slagged off by the masses. I wonder how many of those regret that now that we have a fool like Clouting at the Club?

Sykes · Aug 11, 2011

The masses are morons. Ray Ranson was doing a fine job till the SISU lot pulled the rug from under him.

ajsccfc · Aug 11, 2011

Thorn's in a fairly unique position at the moment; even if his team does terrible, he's not going to get as much stick as previous managers have for far less based on the sympathy people have built up for him.

SkyBluesAndy · Aug 11, 2011

I always thought RR was a good chairman and was genuinely worried and disappointed when he left. Knew a lot about the game and was a good businessman. Would welcome him back as part of a takeover.

Gray · Aug 11, 2011

I won't have a bad word said about Clouting he held the door open for me when I went to the toilet

CovScott88 · Aug 11, 2011

The problem Ranson had, was that we didn't really know how much he was involved with SISU. When people hated SISU, they hated Ranson aswell because they thought he was part of it all. Turns out the SISU :jerkit: fucked him over aswell.

samccov1987 · Aug 11, 2011

Any one ask where the hell Brodys gone? Can't help but think he might have been bombed out cus of all the toss he spoke on twitter. King staying, new players, investment e.t.c

Gray · Aug 11, 2011

The only thing I learned from the experience is we won't sign anyone and Ben Turner is off

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Aug 11, 2011

ajsccfc said:
Do you have any reason to suspect such a hateful lack of professionalism from him?

No
He plays well under Thorn for 10 games or so, earns a new contract then plays like dung again. Maybe just a coincidence but it is a possibility that Bell thinks he can relax on his new contract now, before he was effectively playing for his future. It is a possibility hence the maybe.

More than likely though he is just terrible in general and at the end of last season was a purple patch.

Mexico70 · Aug 11, 2011

The fact that Clouting kept referring to our football club as "the business" said a lot for where his mind is at, his passion for the game and understanding of what a football club is all about.

ajsccfc · Aug 11, 2011

CCFC said:
No
He plays well under Thorn for 10 games or so, earns a new contract then plays like dung again.

He signed a new contract literally days ago, do you think maybe you're jumping to conclusions a little suddenly?

rob9872 · Aug 11, 2011

sky blue john said:
Why the fuck do we need a statue of Oggie the fucker still haunts the place.
If we had statues for every ex player over the history of our club that has given us the same sort of service as Oggie there would be no room for cars in the car park. In my book a statue is probably the highest honour in football and Oggie doesn't come anywhere near the statue bracket.

It was a stupid question and I'm not suggesting Oggy has a statue built either, but there are many reasons why he's more important than you easily dismiss (aprt from being my favourite ever player ):

He was the keeper in our one true moment of historic glory, saved us countless times with man of the match performances and in the top league, he is loyal, he played more games for us than anyone else, worked in the backroom, ran the youth team, is goalkeeper coach, been caretaker manager and is stil there. He continues to work hard in the community, always has time for fans. He as an off field role-model, family man and deservedly known as Mr Coventry City.

Statue? No. Buut certainly more than as suggested just another ex-player.

sw88 · Aug 11, 2011

ajsccfc said:
He signed a new contract literally days ago, do you think maybe you're jumping to conclusions a little suddenly?

In short, No. Its never too early to be suggesting that Bell is a poor player!

Otis · Aug 11, 2011

I wonder if anyone has asked Sisu why they are are saying the club is not for sale? Surely if they are losing money on the venture they would want to sell. I'm not talking about offers of a pound etc. but they are saying clearly, "not for sale."

Surely they will be desperate to get out. Is it just all bluff and smokes and mirrors?

ajsccfc · Aug 11, 2011

I take 'not for sale' as meaning they're not actively offering the club around, but were an acceptable offer to come in they'd be off in a shot.

sky blue john · Aug 11, 2011

Hi Rob, I was probably a bit OTT with the Oggie remarks he is obviously in the top 30 of coventry greats. As you agreed still doesn't warrant a statue. I was more angry about the muppet who asked the question and we say leicester are inbred.

Otis · Aug 11, 2011

Well that's what I think. Just think they can word things in a way that sounds like the door is open. The really don't want Hoffman to get his hands on the club by all accounts. They do seem to keep bringing in new board members etc.

That seems a little baffling for a club that's not for sale but wants to sell.

rob9872 · Aug 11, 2011

Hi John. That's fair enough mate and do agree with the sentiment so wan't having a pop - just putting the case for the defence

CovInEssex · Aug 11, 2011

I've personally had enough of the bollocks.

Why can't the powers that be just let AT say what he wants, and they say exactly how it is, if AT has no budget, say he has no budget! Instead of "He has a budget"...shame it's zero.

Nick · Aug 11, 2011

I have thought they are lying since the King saga!

blueflint · Aug 11, 2011

A T not happy i can see he's saying the right things but not in a convincing manner

sky blue john · Aug 11, 2011

rob9872 said:
Hi John. That's fair enough mate and do agree with the sentiment so wan't having a pop - just putting the case for the defence

No probs rob.
I am a bit bemused at what the Sisu muppets were trying to achieve holding a forum and then not answering any questions.

Gaskell · Aug 11, 2011

I wonder if Cloutings arse gets jealous of the amount of shit that comes out his mouth?

sw88 · Aug 11, 2011

Nick said:
I have thought they are lying since the King saga!

And it never crossed your mind before this :thinking about:

Nick · Aug 11, 2011

sw88 said:
And it never crossed your mind before this :thinking about:

I had my suspicions but now it is dead on!

Godiva · Aug 11, 2011

Otis said:
I wonder if anyone has asked Sisu why they are are saying the club is not for sale? Surely if they are losing money on the venture they would want to sell. I'm not talking about offers of a pound etc. but they are saying clearly, "not for sale."

Surely they will be desperate to get out. Is it just all bluff and smokes and mirrors?

As it stands SISU have not lost a single penny. They have put a lot in but in such a way that the value is preserved in their balance sheets. They will only realise a loss if they sell for anything less than they have put in. So they are somewhat safe as long as the club can live within its means - if they have a cashflow deficit of 2-2.5mio a year, the club needs to have a profit on other activities (player trade) to live within its means. If they manage to sell Turner I guess the board will take what is needed to balance the cashflow deficit for the season and give the rest to AT.

The club is not for sale as it is unrealistic anyone will want to pay off the loans 100%. And as the club is actually quite close financially to become a viable business with a future I can't see SISU sell for less.

sky blue john · Aug 11, 2011

OSB might be able to explain it better. But the losses Sisu incur on this venture as long as they are making profit and paying tax on other investments in the uk these losses can be offset against tax that they would have to give our government. So as it stands they probably haven't lost anything.

blend · Aug 11, 2011

I went tonight too and mirror what's already been said. Just wanted to add to Stevo's post that the tension between Thorn and Clouting was obvious. You would have thought they had either never met or did not like each other. When Clouting gave some answers AT either bit his lip uncomfortably or tried not to smirk - looked like a bloke being taken for a ride.

Some of the questions had been entered beforehand. To be honest if you were there tonight with your hand up, you would have been asked for your question regardless of whether you had sent one in. My feelings that it was going to be completely stage managed were wide of the mark. Atmospehere was very flat, lots of heads in hands and shaking of heads. Clouting was just trying to survive the 60 minutes and was just coming out with anything he felt he could get away with. We have no money, there is some money, there may be some money....get me out of here. People did give up asking questions, what's the point - you may ask well ask your missus for her opinion.

ccfc1973 · Aug 11, 2011

Clouting's favourite sayings

"going forward"
And
"within our means"

What a bumbling bullshitter , just get lost and take Orange ken and disappeared Len with you!!!!!

Tankie · Aug 11, 2011

covscott88 said:
the problem ranson had, was that we didn't really know how much he was involved with sisu. When people hated sisu, they hated ranson aswell because they thought he was part of it all. Turns out the sisu :jerkit: Fucked him over aswell.

"and the band played on"

blend · Aug 11, 2011

He even tried to explain what 'living within your means' means, like us footie fans may never have actually had to budget in our lives. Patronising fuck!

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