letsallsingtogether
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Fans need to look in the mirror (2 Viewers)
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KG7
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A little bit excessive from the OP but I've said before and I do believe that we are part of the problem. So many fans turn up and sit, teeth bared, raring to vent their spleen at the earliest opportunity. This doesn't help. Even last season when we were on a great run. We are clearly not responsible for the mess we're in but we don't help ourselves. The two times we've had any run of success in recent seasons was Northampton where there was a small section of support and no negative atmosphere, and the start of last season when moving everyone together (combined with an early goal against Wigan) caused a positive effect on the atmosphere.
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Irish Sky Blue
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Listen to 6-0-6 any Saturday night and you will hear the world is full of moaniing football fans, most it seems to me with very little to moan about in comparison to say CCFC of Blackpool. Every time Arsenal lose or even don't win the Wenger out campaigners appear. How I would love our club to have Arsenal's level of failure. Two FA cup wins in the last three years 16 consecutive top four finishes, beautiful flowing football every week. Still some of their fans moan.
Irish Sky Blue
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You always get the odd fool who has a go at individual players but on the whole the atmosphere for the team is very positive. Take yesterday for example.It was a desperate game with almost nothing to get excited about. The standard of football was appalling, the entertainment value zero. Now the atmosphere was quiet but still positive. The only time I heard any booing was at the final whistle. Understandable after that performance and the season we have had. Even at the end some people stayed to clap the players off. I never went into Sivfields but the start of that season saw winning football and lots of goals. From what I heard, reaction from fans in the second half of the season when things went wrong wasn't so good. Positive atmosphere all year on the hill!
letsallsingtogether
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Nar must be City fans in disguise.
I have worked with fans of most teams over the years as must have most the people on here.
So have they never moaned about their team?
You should hear he Leicester fans at the moment first they wanted Ranieri to be Knighted now they want his head.
So are they any different to us?
Brylowes
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Never turn your back on a freshly slapped wife.:emoji_knife:
Brylowes
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Yeah, and then they'll go and stick it under some car park for future generations
To discover. :emoji_coffin:
clint van damme
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they've got more fingers!
st john
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When will people realise football is an entertainments business, nothing else. Yes there is a core of people who will go every week and support the team come what may, but I don't agree that there is such a thing as a glory supporter. Clubs will never survive with their core support only, they need to provide the entertainment value that will attract the interested but not necessarily passionate customer. Hence why we got 25000+ for the Gillingham game, and less then 10000 for a less exciting prospect the following week.
But the core supporters of this or any other club are not all idiots, when we don't get value for our hard earned money we complain. I didn't see too much passion from most of the players yesterday, so why should I stay behind and clap the team off? Its no coincidence that when we get a player who gives 100% effort every week he quickly becomes a firm favourite, assuming he has the basic skill required, which you would expect to see in any profession.
So regarding the OP, of course it's not the fan's fault.
But the core supporters of this or any other club are not all idiots, when we don't get value for our hard earned money we complain. I didn't see too much passion from most of the players yesterday, so why should I stay behind and clap the team off? Its no coincidence that when we get a player who gives 100% effort every week he quickly becomes a firm favourite, assuming he has the basic skill required, which you would expect to see in any profession.
So regarding the OP, of course it's not the fan's fault.
robbiethemole
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fickle fans?? did you see how the Liverpool fans ripped into their team yesterday after losing to Swansea, but it was entertaining footy, not the shit our managment put out.
the op needs to get a life in the real world, our owners are determined to strangle the life out of OUR club for some reason, the bunch of cunts
the op needs to get a life in the real world, our owners are determined to strangle the life out of OUR club for some reason, the bunch of cunts
Cavan O'Doherty
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skybluedan
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Well, let me tell you what I see. I see pride! I see power! I see a bad-ass mother who don't take no crap off of nobody!
Sorry, wrong forum
Oh now people you know you won't believe. Sbt we have a bobsleigh team.....
Leamington Pete
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Our fans are amazing. The fact we've got any left is a flippin' miracle.
rondog1973
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This much of your post is true.
The Ultras would have stormed the board room/prawn sandwich enclosure and saw that those responsible were swinging Mussolini style from the nearest stadium gantry.
Sky Blue Harry H
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My mate said to me yesterday, he was half hoping we'd lose to Swansea on Tuesday, as he didn't want SISU hanging on longer - as if they saw 40,00 City 'fans'(!) at Wembley, it would offer them hope, incentive to stay longer - I still want a Wembley trip (but would foresake it to get rid of them quicker). But - and this is the bit that is making it hard, I would love to know how long that they are going to be around. Even if it were 5 years, I could wait them out. Much longer than that???? It's the not knowing that I hate the most and is the reason why so many seem unsure of their next actions (season tickets, etc).
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fernandopartridge
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Not a relevant comparison. The Liverpool fans were there at the match to rip into their team.
fernandopartridge
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And the local authority in Italy wouldn't also have looked to capitalise on a football club's vulnerability setting it a ridiculous rent.
Samo
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With all due respect... Fuck right off.
skybluedan
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I would love that happen to fisher and his cronies, literally kicked to fuck then strung up halal style
Johnnythespider
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Were you there at all the relegation scrapes we pulled the team through, not a very well thought out post. Oh and you're Dad was wrong aswell you don't end up with the woman you deserve, you end up with the woman you can afford.
ollyservetta
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unfair to clump everyone together, but must say ,a lot of fans , me included ,never wanted to leave HR, that's why its seems a lot don't give a damm , its been one disaster after anouther , right back to renting HR due to the problems with the building of the ricoh , people have been hurt so much time and time again , this is why people don't seem to care , they do about ccfc as our team ,but as a club there is nothing left
lifeskyblue
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We have unbelievable fans: still 8,000 there yesterday despite being bottom of 3rd tier. Most current l1 clubs can only dream of such loyalty and support. Away we take significantly more than most. Our fans have put up with years of underachievement and since relegation from premiership have not had a cup run or league finish to get excited about (apart from a jpt...yes a jpt semi). It's testimony to our fans that we are approaching almost certain relegation with gallows humour and resigned determination.
It's the owners not the fans who should look on the mirror....they would see spineless asset strippers that have let down a football club, its history, its fans and have taken away its future.
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It's the owners not the fans who should look on the mirror....they would see spineless asset strippers that have let down a football club, its history, its fans and have taken away its future.
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SkyBlueSid
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I think it's very harsh to say City fans deserve this team or this club. The main body of supporters have been vary patient and tolerant considering the fact that there has been no sniff of success since 1987 and no top 6 finish in any division since 1970. Imagine if that had happened somewhere like Leeds or Liverpool!
Where I do think we have been far too apathetic is in protesting. We have seen various factions arguing with each other about how best to protest while the club just dies a slow death in the background. A united fan base would have been far more effective in organising marches, sit-ins, protests at televised games, pigs on the pitch, boycotts of cup games and so on. Instead, every time we have a protest, others just moan about it.
,My feeling now is that it's just too late. So many fans have been driven away, just given up and can't be bothered to do anything any more. Unless the remaining diehards can unite to get the owners to walk away quickly, the club is on its deathbed and beyond saving.
Where I do think we have been far too apathetic is in protesting. We have seen various factions arguing with each other about how best to protest while the club just dies a slow death in the background. A united fan base would have been far more effective in organising marches, sit-ins, protests at televised games, pigs on the pitch, boycotts of cup games and so on. Instead, every time we have a protest, others just moan about it.
,My feeling now is that it's just too late. So many fans have been driven away, just given up and can't be bothered to do anything any more. Unless the remaining diehards can unite to get the owners to walk away quickly, the club is on its deathbed and beyond saving.
rondog1973
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Do you genuinely think the council aimed to put the club out of business?
KG7
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It doesn't have to be boo'ing for it to be a negative atmosphere! Im talking about blood-boiling, venom-spewing hatred at a player for maybe passing the ball sideways. Wherever I sit there's always someone sat behind me doing this. And it spreads.
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italiahorse
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Don't forget that season ticket holders are counted even if they are not there..
Block 20 around me is missing about 10%.
I would suggest they won't be here next year.
Another 10% I guess are wavering like me.
Ive got plenty of other stuff I can get on with but can see a lot of fans basing their lives around CCFC.
I've been there myself but I can take it or leave it now having started in 1967 (50 years). I would say I'm lucky in that respect.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Just read that we have sold 250 tickets for Swansea the owners, management and players do not deserve these people who make far more effort than any of them
Brylowes
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And yet with that statement you're holding us up against Liverpool fans and in doing so comparing.
With only 60 odd major honours in the bag, I can't understand why Liverpool fans aren't in the grip
Of protests and NOPM
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I can't agree with the OP.
Possibly saying we have 'unbelievable fans' may be a little over the top (though, yes, we do have a Chairman who stopped being believable a number of years ago). But even when the odds seemed against us the whole ground used to be sucked into singing and encouraging the team, whatever the under the breadth moans and groans in-between. It has changed over recent seasons of course, and no more than this season, when it felt to me from the off that people had grown weary of the club's situation, as well as recognising that Mowbray had failed in his recruitment.
The life is being sucked out of the club (and the football under Slade isn't helping). I can't see much blame on the supporters here.
I've only missed one home game in the last 7 seasons (and have been to around a quarter of the away games) since I starting buying a season ticket again: not sure I even want to go the next game (it's not the losing, it's the absolute state of what we're being served up, it's hateful).
Possibly saying we have 'unbelievable fans' may be a little over the top (though, yes, we do have a Chairman who stopped being believable a number of years ago). But even when the odds seemed against us the whole ground used to be sucked into singing and encouraging the team, whatever the under the breadth moans and groans in-between. It has changed over recent seasons of course, and no more than this season, when it felt to me from the off that people had grown weary of the club's situation, as well as recognising that Mowbray had failed in his recruitment.
The life is being sucked out of the club (and the football under Slade isn't helping). I can't see much blame on the supporters here.
I've only missed one home game in the last 7 seasons (and have been to around a quarter of the away games) since I starting buying a season ticket again: not sure I even want to go the next game (it's not the losing, it's the absolute state of what we're being served up, it's hateful).
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Bob Latchford
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Grendel
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You should use that for your next avatar Bob
oldskyblue58
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I would think that many fans can look in the mirror and say they have over the years done their bit and spent plenty doing it.
Football should have a symbiotic relationship between fans and team not view the fans as a parasite that doesn't do enough to support highly paid young men kicking a bag of wind around a green patch with two big netted targets at either end...... and in our case doing it consistently poorly.
Is it not about time that the team gave us the paying customer something to get excited about to shout about instead of perpetual inconsistency struggle failure and often a very poor product
The fans get the team they deserve? Clearly on that basis some other team is getting a share of what our fans deserve. We are bottom of L1 21 points from 27 games playing some of the worst football we have seen. Yet we have even now the 9th best attendances in the division. We provide one of the biggest away followings in the division. What lays behind that is that our fans spend more money than most other teams in L1 home and away supporting their team. That's commitment but it brings an element of entitlement
Fans are entitled to an opinion. If the team was even average in this division much of the criticism would not be heard. Many teams play in small tight grounds that where you are rubbing shoulders with others...... we don't we play in a ground where 8000 (above the league average of 7000) is 25% full and any noise gets lost in the empty space.
Yes it would be good if everything was positive.... life is not like that and it is naive to think it could be. Don't like what someone is saying shout louder than him. Not all fans are negative and not all fans want to sing and chant. They are even less likely to sing given what is often served up as football passion and commitment by Ccfc
Someone is promoting blame the fans ....... but that's just pointing a finger at something so other things are not focussed on .... sound familiar? The fans are being alienated from their team and passion. Not sure why anyone would do that, or blame them for the almost terminal problems of the team and business that is Ccfc ..... beggars belief on so many levels really
Yes the fans could be more positive but it is up to the team, the directors and yes the owners to give us something to be positive about. To take us with them on a positive journey not to close the road and put up barriers
Plenty of people need to look in the mirror before the fans. Blaming the fans for what is rank bad management at all levels together with poor investment of the fans money is simply going to be offensive to many loyal fans.
Sorry I think the OP is pointing a finger at something solved by a little success..... what does he expect after 9 years or more of decline and failure. But still the fans turn up
Football should have a symbiotic relationship between fans and team not view the fans as a parasite that doesn't do enough to support highly paid young men kicking a bag of wind around a green patch with two big netted targets at either end...... and in our case doing it consistently poorly.
Is it not about time that the team gave us the paying customer something to get excited about to shout about instead of perpetual inconsistency struggle failure and often a very poor product
The fans get the team they deserve? Clearly on that basis some other team is getting a share of what our fans deserve. We are bottom of L1 21 points from 27 games playing some of the worst football we have seen. Yet we have even now the 9th best attendances in the division. We provide one of the biggest away followings in the division. What lays behind that is that our fans spend more money than most other teams in L1 home and away supporting their team. That's commitment but it brings an element of entitlement
Fans are entitled to an opinion. If the team was even average in this division much of the criticism would not be heard. Many teams play in small tight grounds that where you are rubbing shoulders with others...... we don't we play in a ground where 8000 (above the league average of 7000) is 25% full and any noise gets lost in the empty space.
Yes it would be good if everything was positive.... life is not like that and it is naive to think it could be. Don't like what someone is saying shout louder than him. Not all fans are negative and not all fans want to sing and chant. They are even less likely to sing given what is often served up as football passion and commitment by Ccfc
Someone is promoting blame the fans ....... but that's just pointing a finger at something so other things are not focussed on .... sound familiar? The fans are being alienated from their team and passion. Not sure why anyone would do that, or blame them for the almost terminal problems of the team and business that is Ccfc ..... beggars belief on so many levels really
Yes the fans could be more positive but it is up to the team, the directors and yes the owners to give us something to be positive about. To take us with them on a positive journey not to close the road and put up barriers
Plenty of people need to look in the mirror before the fans. Blaming the fans for what is rank bad management at all levels together with poor investment of the fans money is simply going to be offensive to many loyal fans.
Sorry I think the OP is pointing a finger at something solved by a little success..... what does he expect after 9 years or more of decline and failure. But still the fans turn up
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