lewys33
Well-Known Member
sometimes its fun to wind people up just to provoke a response ......
example: me at times!
It started off nice and balanced about being fed up of people who can't see all sides are to blame, didn't take long for the anti sisu to come out.
sometimes its fun to wind people up just to provoke a response ......
example: me at times!
Yes but when you have just posted a newsletter trying to be balanced and saying how fed up you are of people who can't see all sides are to blame and then going all sisu out with the excuser shit it throws it all out of the window and devalues good work that is being done and alienates some fans.
I see your point, however calling someone a sisu excuser doesn't mean that you yourself are 100% anti-sisu. Isn't saying Michael is all anti-sisu just because he has called someone a sisu excuser hypocritical?
Yes it doesn't mean you may be 100% sisu out but it shows you aren't balanced when you post things like that after sending out emails saying you are fed up...
Who started off with the sisu.excuser stuff anyway? Genuine question.
Is everyone perfectly balanced? I would say most blame all parties, but not equally.
I have no idea.
Yes but when you have just posted a newsletter trying to be balanced and saying how fed up you are of people who can't see all sides are to blame and then going all sisu out with the excuser shit it throws it all out of the window and devalues good work that is being done and alienates some fans.
Yes it doesn't mean you may be 100% sisu out but it shows you aren't balanced when you post things like that after sending out emails saying you are fed up...
Sorry, by balanced I mean all sides at fault rather than an equal percentage of blame each side.
I am sorry I'm a bit confused now. Michael was trying to be balanced .... but he is not balanced because he called someone a sisu excuser ...... but being balanced is holding all parties to blame? Correct? Was that not originally put? As you have put above calling someone a sisu excuser does not mean he is 100% sisu out does it? Would you be making the same comment had he called someone an ACL excuser?
I am not condoning Michael calling someone a sisu excuser, but by no means does that mean that he has an alter-ego that is purely anti-sisu does it? Being anti-sisu is not being pro-ACL and vice a versa (hence why I am not condoning the comment).
You cant have it both ways.
its quite simple.
he has called those that can see all parties to blame sisu excusers
which means in his warped mind that anyone who sees issue with the council must be excusing sisu
ironically he is fed up of those that cant see all parties to blame
If we're moving this on to a more helpful discussion, it was on Saturday at Tranmere that I thought I made a completely innocuous comment and had someone have a go at me saying I was being pro sisu. The last two weeks in the kcic emailout I've made what I again thought were innocuous comments and get told I'm being anti sisu (and I have previously posted that I wish people would make their mind up as to whether I'm a sisu scab or an acl employee because I get called both). The only way I can make sense of such a contradiction is that the whole ccfc mess has been framed in terms of choosing sides between acl/sisu or at the very least interpreting everything within that frame. I don't buy into that framing, and I want to reframe debate so as to be about what is best for the team and fans. If everything is considered with a starting point of putting the interests of the team and fans first, it allows for a very different debate to the pro/anti acl/sisu one pretty much every thread on here has descended into for many months.
If this is the case, you couldn't be anymore on the fence if you tried, lol. You're doing a sterling job its just a shame this whole fucking mess has caused a massive division between us in a a matter of months.
Where have I sneered ? I don't find it amusing at all. The 2nd part of your thread makes sense but you really need to work on the make believe bits that you sneak in . You're starting to sound like an old harpy .
Like this on the cov v northampton council thread
Lets hope they succeed against the odds or jobs could go. I'm not a vindictive man and would hate to see the likes of you, Schmee, jack, James, Noggin and all the other council and ACL employees on here out of work.
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