covcity4life
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Not sure how it works as its not possible to social distance in football whereas employees in different business prob can return ti work whilst adhering to safety protocols
Not sure how it works as its not possible to social distance in football whereas employees in different business prob can return ti work whilst adhering to safety protocolsThe difference is premier league footballers still want paying which is a luxury other employees will not have
Sorry to hear that mate, all the very best to you and your family.On a side issue, with regards to 'people die all the time'
My Auntie was taken to hospital two days ago (I'll say no more on that)
If she has passed it onto her husband (my uncle) - goodbye
My brother has leukaemia (treatable) but if he gets it....
Mum, stepfather and father in-law - if they pick it up...
Multiply this around our membership/community and it is not ok just to say 'people die' with a get over it attitude.
This is not a normal situation - no cheap throwaway remarks, please.
On a side issue, with regards to 'people die all the time'
My Auntie was taken to hospital two days ago (I'll say no more on that)
If she has passed it onto her husband (my uncle) - goodbye
My brother has leukaemia (treatable) but if he gets it....
Mum, stepfather and father in-law - if they pick it up...
Multiply this around our membership/community and it is not ok just to say 'people die' with a get over it attitude.
This is not a normal situation - no cheap throwaway remarks, please.
Cheers mate. I'm fine with life and not down at all, but am mindful of how others are (my brother has been told he WILL die if he gets it- and he's pretty matter of fact about it). My post was just a reaction to what I thought were a couple of flippant posts, which I don't think they would have made, had they had anybody else in a similar situation. And even if they did, I would have expected some sensitivity to those who may be struggling with it. I'm not, but if something happens to my brother, I'd reply differently. How's Verona? and hope you are well. PUSBSorry to hear that mate, all the very best to you and your family.
Sorry to hear that mate, hope things work out OK.On a side issue, with regards to 'people die all the time'
My Auntie was taken to hospital two days ago (I'll say no more on that)
If she has passed it onto her husband (my uncle) - goodbye
My brother has leukaemia (treatable) but if he gets it....
Mum, stepfather and father in-law - if they pick it up...
Multiply this around our membership/community and it is not ok just to say 'people die' with a get over it attitude.
This is not a normal situation - no cheap throwaway remarks, please.
Cheers mate. I'm fine with life and not down at all, but am mindful of how others are (my brother has been told he WILL die if he gets it- and he's pretty matter of fact about it). My post was just a reaction to what I thought were a couple of flippant posts, which I don't think they would have made, had they had anybody else in a similar situation. And even if they did, I would have expected some sensitivity to those who may be struggling with it. I'm not, but if something happens to my brother, I'd reply differently. How's Verona? and hope you are well. PUSB
Its amazing how casually some people dismiss people dying. Of course people die all the time but there are thousands of additional deaths, its not like people have suddenly stopped dying of anything else.
What about Sepsis, what about MRSA, what about Cancer, what about mental health / suicide, what about car crashes?
If anything it looks like corona deaths are being under-reported. Look at deaths in care homes for example, 9,707 deaths over the 5 year average but of those 3,093 are listed as corona. What about the other 6,614?Statistically they seem to be. Everything is "corona, corona, corona" which is obviously shit but everything else gets forgotten. Mental Health? Suicides will be on the up due to this and people feeling resigned to this being life going forward with no end in sight.
Mentally, although it doesn't mean we should go out and hug strangers it just means to look forward positively about WHEN this is over.
If anything it looks like corona deaths are being under-reported. Look at deaths in care homes for example, 9,707 deaths over the 5 year average but of those 3,093 are listed as corona. What about the other 6,614?
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That's why IMO the best number to look at is excess deaths. It won't be exact of course as somethings will have gone down but I think its as close as we're going to get until the data is analysed which could be months or years down the line.
I think that's what they'll eventually use to make country v country comparisons
I don’t think they will they will extend the data analysis beyond the virus period and see if there are substitution impacts
I think that's what they'll eventually use to make country v country comparisons
But they will have to look at it month by month. By the end of the year we could be seeing less deaths than normal because those dying from winter diseases are down because we lost them now. So we end up having it look like our response was better than it was because it evened out a bit over time.
You'll need to explain substitution impact to me!
Ok until the last part - it's not people losing 1 month off their life expectancy ( in some cases, maybe). Haven't got time at the moment, but that's a flawed calculation, imho.On average 800000 or so Brits die each year
By the end of this we will probably have had 1 month of additional deaths
Or put it another way, people dying a month earlier
None of which transfer from human to human.
We have a chance to reduce the damage this does.
There have been numerous adverts in the media about people still attending appointments for cancer treatments and going to A and E if they have other complaints and there is stuff about mental health everywhere.
Don't think its fair to say it's been forgotten.
On average 800000 or so Brits die each year
By the end of this we will probably have had 1 month of additional deaths
Or put it another way, people dying a month earlier
Fucking hellOn average 800000 or so Brits die each year
By the end of this we will probably have had 1 month of additional deaths
Or put it another way, people dying a month earlier
On average 800000 or so Brits die each year
By the end of this we will probably have had 1 month of additional deaths
Or put it another way, people dying a month earlier
One thing that is perhaps different about the current set of circumstances is that a significant proportion of the population know that if they catch this, there is a strong possibility they will die. .
My brother is in his 50s. He gets it, he dies....the under 75s who are vulnerable (underlying conditions) are locking themselves away. If the virus gets to them, a significant number will suffer.Is there? The current rate is 2.5% for those under 75, and that rate is most likely skewed by the lack of testing.(number of coronavirus cases probably higher than reported). That's not an insignificant figure, but I'd say the very strong possibility is that if people catch it they won't die.
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