Grendel
Well-Known Member
Ah so you don't answer the points I make.
No worries I accept your apology.
How can calling you an idiot be nasty? Surely that's a compliment to someone like you.
Ah so you don't answer the points I make.Now that's not very nice Grendel. I understand that you've made a bit of a fool of yourself again, and you're naturally embarassed. But hey, bygones and all that, we are here for you. Don't get nasty.
Now that's not very nice Grendel. I understand that you've made a bit of a fool of yourself again, and you're naturally embarassed. But hey, bygones and all that, we are here for you. Don't get nasty.
Ah so you don't answer the points I make.
No worries I accept your apology.
How can calling you an idiot be nasty? Surely that's a compliment to someone like you.
We're you Ashdown without the one on GMK? If so you were so up sisu's arse at the time i would imagine ranson has trouble walking.
Most of the questions are purely structured. Fisher is Oxbridge educated and used to debating. It's cringeworthy.
To be fair Ashdown has always been pretty sceptical of Sisu, and doesn't give any leeway to Ranson or any old members of the board either.
If that's the case I apologise.
Ah humility, don't get a nosebleed.
No I always apologise when an error is made.
Surely a night of firsts! I don't doubt you said about a boycott, and I DEFINITELY said a TOTAL boycott of sisu is the ONLY way forward. I was effectively lynched by the clique, claiming they couldn't afford to burn bridges. Maybe I am biased, but I think ANY bridges that they wanted to keep open have been burnt to a cinder tonight!
Wasn't it a surprise with such a limited number of questions being asked, at least 7 were asked by the trust who were selected at "random" By Mr linnell - what a surprise!
It ended up the FARCICAL trust and Tim show. Linnell as far as I remember didn't allow ANYONE to come back when TF answered a question. And by doing so, it ensured the people there became more and more worked up, and ended up as a slanging match. Which I have no doubt was brilliant for ratings - who DOESN'T like a good slanging match, but did it achieve ANYTHING?
Nothing new came to light, anything TF said could be classed as misunderstood if push came to shove. Basically, the time passed LONG LONG ago when talks were going to sort this out. Sisu don't even deny that months ago they were looking to move away!
The losers as always are the fans. The trust get their voice heard (pointless but GREAT for egos) TF was allowed to sound reasoned and rational (IF you don't look at the actions OUTSIDE of the forum), and Linnell ONCE AGAIN gets to boost his credentials by hosting what I presume would have been a widely listened to broadcast.
Basically, EVERYTHING that happened tonight could have and indeed WAS predicted to happen. Passion is great, but sadly the questions asked were hardly killer blows. It's not as if there isn't the ammunition.
No sadly ONCE AGAIN failed to represent the members properly. But what do you expect from a group that will NOT investigate breaches of its OWN rules unless you are prepared to pay £500!
So basically they will be open honest and transparent EXCEPT when it comes to their OWN members hate campaigns!
And when you consider their founder Jan PROMISED - he said TRUST me that ANY repeat ANY attacks or threats will NOT be tolerated and ANY such attacks (there have been MANY - INCLUDING from members of the board) then he ASSURED me that they would be dealt with.
All of a sudden Mr Fletcher, gets EXTREMELY DEFENSIVE, criticises me for NOT being to speak to them in private, and said that they would ONLY investigate if I was prepared to pay them £500!
Now how on earth can they POSSIBLY claim to be open honest and transparent, yet expect to be PAID to sort out their OWN house!
No wonder they are ENCOURAGING hate speech, it's another way of getting funds into the coffers!
And they wonder why I detest the very notion of them as the voice of the fans, and why I find it utterly distasteful that they are working towards a FREE place on the board of coventry city!
They CLAIMED I was mistaken about them being secretive. Today has PROVEN I was RIGHT all along!
They have let EVERYONE - not just their OWN members, but EVERYONE by hijacking the forum, then asking inane questions!
The sooner the trust disbands - the BETTER
I agree that he was able to squirm his way out of several cul de sacs as many of the fans asking the questions didn't seem to have the necessary oratory skills to deliver the knock out blows. Justified anger got in the way of articulate,probing questioning. I just hope that there is an OSB or similar at the one tomorrow or the one I'm at on Monday who will be able to deliver that knock out blow as although it's easy to say listening to it on the radio, he really was there for the taking tonight.
I agree that he was able to squirm his way out of several cul de sacs as many of the fans asking the questions didn't seem to have the necessary oratory skills to deliver the knock out blows. Justified anger got in the way of articulate,probing questioning. I just hope that there is an OSB or similar at the one tomorrow or the one I'm at on Monday who will be able to deliver that knock out blow as although it's easy to say listening to it on the radio, he really was there for the taking tonight.
His oratorial skills are more than effective.......just my opinion.People putting too much onto poor old OSB really.
Whilst he may be great at dissecting finances online, it doesn't mean that he is a good orator or particularly good at debating.
It's not what you know, but how effectively you say it that often counts.
So what do you expect they are just your average supporters like the rest of us we are not educated in the world of spin I suppose you would have done better
You suppose wrong! If I thought I had the necessary skills I wouldn't be hoping for someone who had to be attending I would've said I'll be doing it on Monday! Fair point although as I said given the right, probing questioning I personally think he would not be as effective at spin.
People putting too much onto poor old OSB really.
Whilst he may be great at dissecting finances online, it doesn't mean that he is a good orator or particularly good at debating.
It's not what you know, but how effectively you say it that often counts.
Fair point LS but I just think what's needed is someone that is able to get across their point to him who has the business acumen and with a good knowledge of administration, business law and insolvency laws and who can get their point across in a measured, reasoned way. Like a lot of fans I just wouldn't be able to hold back on the anger I feel towards them and as soon as you do that you've lost the argument...
Yes but what are these questions we need them for the next forum which is also on the radio tomorrow any ideas every one
To be fair Ashdown has always been pretty sceptical of Sisu, and doesn't give any leeway to Ranson or any old members of the board either.
Most of the questions are purely structured. Fisher is Oxbridge educated and used to debating. It's cringeworthy.
In his first answer he defines the football club as that company which has the right & title to the assets, he is so wrong, the football club is the fans, without them it is nothing.
Clear lack of understanding about what football is all about.
In his first answer he defines the football club as that company which has the right & title to the assets, he is so wrong, the football club is the fans, without them it is nothing.
Clear lack of understanding about what football is all about.
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