thaiskyblue
New Member
showing and doing are two different things. sisu out.
showing and doing are two different things. sisu out.Worrying if true they showed the football league proof they are gonna finance it for next 3 years this could be the start of a very long road I'm afraid it sounds like their in for the long haul
Surely any local council that already has a football club should deny planning permission due to clash of interest ,It would be amazing if Nuneaton and Bedworth gave permission given that there are 2 clubs in the area and Nuneaton Town not being to far away from CCFC in league standings ,and given the trouble Nuneaton Town had trying to get a new ground through planning.
So that leaves Rugby Leamington Warwick or maybe Hinkley as possible places
I'd love to agree with you dear chap; but if SISU were going to play the sacrificial fool card, surely they should have done it after Ken Dulieu, Leonard Brody or Onye Igwe?
And what better way than soften it all up, move the rules of engagement a little, and then there's an easy and obvious way to unite fans after the fallout concludes. Next person can make a big thing of mistakes of the past, learn from them, determined to get fans onside etc... we've seen it often enough with the shift from Richardson to McGinnity to Robinson after all!
If SISUs plan is presented with many riches for the council...business taxes, car-park fees etc...as part of a deal, then amateur & semi-pro clubs will not stand in their way.
It does seem that Fisher is going out of his way to piss off as many people as possible
I can only presume that they have sold part of the business structure (perhaps CCFC H or SBSL to Otium/SISU) and used this to generate the funds to keep on running the club while its so heavily loss making.The points I found interesting in what he said were
- that they are not going to come back to the Ricoh to do a rent deal
- that they had provided proof of funds to the FL for the next 3 to 5 years
- that last friday the club was recapitalised
- the squad on Saturday was costing £1m pa for FFP
so wont rent but does that point to the real SISU ambition in this
how can you have proof of funds for 3 to 5 years when it is based on projections that right now appear flawed in terms of income or is it just another promise the FL have accepted?
what does he mean recapitalised or is that similar to the 32m euro one he came up with this time last year and never seems to have happened
the reason we have a young squad is their salaries do not count in the FFP calculation. So the actual wage bill total does not bear resemblance to 65% of turnover then. So what happens as the squad gets older? What happens to young lads in a tough physical division when the pitches deteriorate
just thoughts
If SISUs plan is presented with many riches for the council...business taxes, car-park fees etc...as part of a deal, then amateur & semi-pro clubs will not stand in their way.
It is easy to know where to begin with any forum or reported statements/interviews, I have the following rules (bought about by past experience only to be left feeling deflated): -
1. listen for yourself before commenting
2. as far as is practicable, listen for yourself before reading or listening to anyone else's comments...thus resisting the urge to break rule "1."
3. Spend some time thinking carefully about what has been said before commenting
Fact is TF did not mention ACL when referring to getting the 10pts back. He used the word "they"...Now think!!! This could mean ACL, the Courts (legal action/veiled threat to FL?), the FL...etc. Knee-jerk thoughts & reactions of people on here is looking for half (or even less) of a reason to throw some flack his way...which is exactly what he could be after - to draw the spotlight back to him & away from JS. He is at worst a semi-skilled operator at this but with professional PR people feeding him threads of where & how to steer the debate to where they want it to go. Yes he will make some cock-ups along the way - he's human after-all!
Interestingly he did mention emotion as one reason for fans not attending in Northampton, & respecting them...do not be fooled! He is deliberately trying to provoke your emotions...he added stuff about great performances/games like the one yesterday almost in the same sentence - he might as well have said "Look what you missed you fools".
Stay strong...stay away.
O'Connor: I've had a text here this morning from Steve, who says 'why don't you do a short term deal with ACL for 3 years until you've built your new stadium?' And that way the fans get what they want, and you kind of get what you want, don't you?
Fisher: Yeah well if they can give us our ten points back, then we might sit down and have a chat.
O'Connor: Y-y-you're not going to entertain that at all?
Fisher: Huh, not at all Shane. We set out with a very clear vision for 3 years, and we've committed to 3 years financially, up to 5 with slippage on the new stadium, and we'll, you know, stick to that.
This is a very childish, unprofessional and unhelpful statement and though some have said there's nothing new, last week he said he was willing to talk to ACL and now this week he is pretty much shutting the door on us ever returning to the Ricoh.
The bloke needs to go. He's helping no-one and doing no favours even for his own side. No-one can defend him when he says stuff like this surely?
Liking a negative post is all
Like on facebook when people like status updates about people who have cancer, or like the fact someone's wife has had it away with 7 of the builders on their new extension.
You're not 'liking' the content, but publicly stating empathy for the insight.
It's the tyranny of the like button!
what makes you think that? surely supporters of those clubs would stay loyal to them and not want another club dropped on their doorstep and there would likely be opposition from Coventry fans who live in those areas. That's before you even get to objections on the practical side like infrastructure and people not wanting a stadium built by their house.
People who suggest planning permission for a new ground is impossible are being a tad naive.
People who suggest SISU have the money for a new ground are being a bit more than a tad naive.
Any proposal will surely be nowhere near those built up areas being referred to (it will be on the edge of the Coventry administrative boundary). For example, build a stadium next to the A46 in an area covered by Rugby District Council (say at Ansty Park), a location just yards from the edge of Coventry but miles from Rugby, and thus it would have zero impact on Rugby itself or the people living there (or in any of the villages that lie in between Rugby and Coventry such is its location and the ease of access). It's all about location, and while that particular location has been ruled out, it is very hard to see on what grounds planning permission would have been refused had Ansty Park been selected (other than change of use, but I doubt that would have been a show stopper). People who suggest planning permission for a new ground is impossible are being a tad naive.
People who suggest SISU have the money for a new ground are being a bit more than a tad naive.
Well its not ansty, apparently its not Ryton, so that's the Brownfield sites gone, Greenfield sites they haven't a chance of getting planning permission for.
So where else can it be?
Is it me or has it all gone quiet from the pro Sisu gang? How on earth this lot past the 'fit and proper' test is beyond me, it's like saying Stuart Hall is fit and proper to be a childminder!
There is no 'pro sisu' gang.
People who think in 5 years CCFC (and not SISU themselves) will own their own stadium after all this are being a bit more than a tad naive
There is no 'pro sisu' gang.
There is no 'pro sisu' gang.
There is no 'pro sisu' gang.
There are those who don't take as harsh a stance in judging their actions as might be expected given their track record in charge. Threatened liquidation, unnecessary move out of the City, habitual and incessant economies of truth.
Why would people not greet such with the indignation it deserves? Surely it has to show some sympathy of ambition? And is not such leaning - either large or small - 'pro'?
Ahh I've woken one up, so tell me how you again how Sisu have the best interests of Coventry City at heart..........................well I'm waiting.............:thinking about:
In that case the majority of posters are 'pro' ACL...
In that case the majority of posters are 'pro' ACL...
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