SkyblueBazza
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And the referee is ALWAYS...at every level as far as i know...addressed as "sir". Just respecting the role. Nothing else.
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And the referee is ALWAYS...at every level as far as i know...addressed as "sir". Just respecting the role. Nothing else.Very true Johnnie, but it can even be seen on the pitch.
Most games in football a referee gives a decision that one team dont like, and they surround him, pushing and shoving, in his face shouting screaming and sometimes swearing. Kids watch this and think its acceptable.
In Rugby, the referee, unless speaking to a certyain player, will only speak to the Captain, and will send any other players who wish to say something away, or their team will concede a penalty or they could end up off the pitch on a yellow card. They respect the referee and therefore create a different impression to those watching, than that of footballers.
I like both games, am a football fan first and foremost, but cant help admit that most footballers act like pricks around the referee on the pitch, and this can rub off on impressionable fans watching.
Absolute tosh!Without wishing to upset anybody a football fan is loyal to their team and only really has one love and will never change Rugby fans seem a bit more flaky and start supporting/following the latest team in town.
Absolute tosh!
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Probably, it would more than likely be the same ones who's lives it ruined when we got moved to Northampton so they hate sisu so much. The ones who were against clubs moving...Look at it like this if Hull City relocated to the Ricoh would everybody start going to watch them even if they are in the Prem I doubt it, but look at what has happened with this group who have come into town.
Look at it like this if Hull City relocated to the Ricoh would everybody start going to watch them even if they are in the Prem I doubt it, but look at what has happened with this group who have come into town.
If I swore at someone at work I'd be sacked.
Went to Walsall Saturday, rugby sunday. So I am comparing the 2 experiences really. Gate at Walsall just under 6000, 15000 at the rugger. Was behind the goal not far from the corner were there were a few city fans in the other stand, all match I was being eye-balled by fat looking to be tough guy stewards and about half a dozen coppers all seemed to be looking my way, we score and as fans were cheering a steward was pushing and shoving what I would say were quiet young supporters 15/16 and yes the old bill managed to seem fit to eject one, perhaps arrested him don't really know and then continue to stare at us. At half time I went down and asked one copper why he was staring at me, he looked sheepish to be honest but didn't answer, but after half time never looked my way at all ?
At the rugby there has been a 28000 gate and 15000+ gate, I haven't seen one copper in the ground, why ?
Went to Walsall Saturday, rugby sunday. So I am comparing the 2 experiences really. Gate at Walsall just under 6000, 15000 at the rugger. Was behind the goal not far from the corner were there were a few city fans in the other stand, all match I was being eye-balled by fat looking to be tough guy stewards and about half a dozen coppers all seemed to be looking my way, we score and as fans were cheering a steward was pushing and shoving what I would say were quiet young supporters 15/16 and yes the old bill managed to seem fit to eject one, perhaps arrested him don't really know and then continue to stare at us. At half time I went down and asked one copper why he was staring at me, he looked sheepish to be honest but didn't answer, but after half time never looked my way at all ?
At the rugby there has been a 28000 gate and 15000+ gate, I haven't seen one copper in the ground, why ?
Depends whether you declare the Hobnobs offside rule...What if you shoulder challenge someone while the biscuits are within playing distance?
Without wishing to upset anybody a football fan is loyal to their team and only really has one love and will never change Rugby fans seem a bit more flaky and start supporting/following the latest team in town.
Ha ha. That'll be why over the last 30 years or so; I've seen people walking around the streets of our local towns wearing Liverpool shirts, then Manchester United shirts, then Chelsea shirts....
A year ago I'd have said absolutely, however the wasps move has opened my eyes though. If the hypothetical move you proposed happened the people of Coventry would probably roll out the red carpet and welcome them with open arms. In fact I have no doubt they would.
I get your point about rugby fans being a bit more flaky but are you telling me there are suddenly 28k rugby fans in the city for the first match or 15k rugby fans for the second match, not a chance or where have they been for CRFC then? Majority of them had probably never been to more than a handful of rugby matches in there life before the first wasps match, a few of them I would wager only went to rub it in the face of CCFC with an attitude of look what you could have had.
The sad fact is that you do not have to travel far outside of Coventry before your search for anything from a badge to a shirt of CCFC branding is harder to find than one for AC Milan!Ha ha. That'll be why over the last 30 years or so; I've seen people walking around the streets of our local towns wearing Liverpool shirts, then Manchester United shirts, then Chelsea shirts....
Maybe you've just got one of those faces.
It can be easily summed up with the close up TV image (particular with corners) of the average football touchline fan, face contorted with anger/rage, vile language, derogatory hand motions, vilifying and booing star internationals - and these are the "grown ups" of our society !!
What an example to our younger fan base - so until these cretins are removed from grounds or isolated this uncomfortable atmosphere will prevail I am afraid.
It can be easily summed up with the close up TV image (particular with corners) of the average football touchline fan, face contorted with anger/rage, vile language, derogatory hand motions, vilifying and booing star internationals - and these are the "grown ups" of our society !!
What an example to our younger fan base - so until these cretins are removed from grounds or isolated this uncomfortable atmosphere will prevail I am afraid.
Presumably you don't watch Premier League or Champions League football on television? The crowd is multi racial and stuffed with the same middle class idiots who treat football and rugby as entertainment like going to theatre.
In my view the behaviour off the pitch reflects the behaviour on the pitch. You've got players biting each others ears off, spitting on each other and deliberately trying to cripple each other. Not to mention the diving, cheating, play-acting, time-wasting and kicking the ball away. Fans detest diving until it gets their team a penalty, then it's ok.
You don't see this in Rugby.
So the fans reflect the general morals and standards of behaviour of the players.
yeah what the hell has multi race got to do with it fernando?
Ha ha. That'll be why over the last 30 years or so; I've seen people walking around the streets of our local towns wearing Liverpool shirts, then Manchester United shirts, then Chelsea shirts....
I think Fernando was only trying to point out that you get a cross section of society at both Rugby and football, and it isnt representative of just one small section of people, like for example football just tended to be wtached buy the working classess.
Interesting thread this...
There's never any trouble at rugby because the combatants are generally respectful to one another and the referee has complete authority, even when he makes the occasional mistake there is NO dissent. Also, there seems to be a higher proportion of women & kids, but most importantly the average IQ of those at the rugger is 20 points or more higher than those rough chaps down the footy!
F It all started to change in the late 1960's and 1970's when the hooligans started emerging. All of the businesses near Highfield road boarded up their windows before match days. After that, no more way games and no more wearing the teams colours and eventually my father stopped taking me.
A lot of English football fans can't handle their beer and need somewhere to vent their failings and insecurities.
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