robbiethemole
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if you want to see despair, go look on the Walsall boards, they need a samaritan line over there.
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Otis
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Well yep!
It's okay, we're still top 6 and 11 points clear.
It's okay, we're top 6 and still a few points clear.
It's okay, we're still top 6.
It's okay, we're 7th.
It's okay we're 8th.
It's okay, we're 10th.
It's okay, at least we finished higher up than we did last year.
Can you spot the pattern emerging? We can't just look back and say we were really good for a while. A season is a season and at the end of this campaign, in black and white will be where we have finished.
No-one is going to care to remember we were top 6 for quite a while.
It doesn't matter that we were top 6 for a while. All that matters is where we finish. That is the only factor in the history books. Only we as City fans will know what we had and how we blew it!
This has already gone from a great season to a terrible one. The way we are playing now is as bad as many other City teams of late. Dominated, not creating enough, heads dropping, silly goals, clueless, lightweight, lack of fight, no plan b.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee. We are not the great team we thought we were. We are a below average League One side and unless we change things now tactically and mentally, this slide will continue and it will turn out to be one of the worst seasons in living memory.
Otis
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I would say we will go into next season a lot less confident than this and a lot more downhearted. Would expect ST sales to drop too.
This was a great chance and we blew it. It really is that simple.
It is not too late yet, but we simply CANNOT continue to carrying on playing the way we are playing and hope it will all just come good at some point again.
We stay as we are we will drop like a stone. Time now for TM to implement these 'other plans' and the 'adapting' the way we play.
Covstu
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For me it's deeper than the manager, it's the reliance on loan signings which seems to be the clubs template for the last 10 years. We have a team of players who are not attached to the club and are already looking at their own position back at their contracted clubs. Every year it's failure and start from scratch. Until we change this recruitment model we will never get up
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Huckerby
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As do most other clubs in this league.
Everyone needs to stop clinging onto the fairytale that we are going to get owners who are going to pump tens of millions into a club. Very rare
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Terry Gibson's perm
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If we want to get out of this league we need more physical players, I know Johnson is always injured but when he was fit he scared some of the opposition players, players like Fleck will scare nobody. We need three or four big strong nasty type players.
Otis
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I have noticed we have been dwarfed by man mountains on a number of occasions.
Thought Rochdale looked decent. They just need some attacking threat up front.
They were organised, strong, disciplined and had great energy.
I know people were saying they are just a notable team, but now they are only 4 points behind us.
They had some big, strong players in their side for sure.
Thought Rochdale looked decent. They just need some attacking threat up front.
They were organised, strong, disciplined and had great energy.
I know people were saying they are just a notable team, but now they are only 4 points behind us.
They had some big, strong players in their side for sure.
Nick
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Ideal for Henderson then
Tommystours
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I am really pissed off that everyone we play lately is organised ,disciplined and full of energy.Why aren't we like this Mobray ?.. Get some help with a motivater /psychologist to change the mind set of players who have lost it.
Otis
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Yep, totally agree. I would like to see Armstrong and Henderson up top together.
We then can have the variation of playing the ball long as well as trying to play through teams.
Henderson probably can't manage a whole 90 mind, but why don't we do what we do with Cole and start him and then withdraw him after 60-70 mins?
Covstu
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not the reliance like us however, loanees are to cover the odd spot not to form the backbone of your squad.
Grendel
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They form the backbone of many squads. Birmingham and Stoke were promoted to the premiership with a policy totally targeted at loan players being integral to the team.
Covstu
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One or two not five or six. They both had a core of decent players to achieve this goal
BackRoomRummermill
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Portsmouth did the same when they went up to the premier with Harry
Skyblueweeman
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stupot07
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Yeah brum only really had Muamba and Bentdner on loan for the who season, Larsson was on loan until Jan when they signed him on a permanent. The rest of their team were their own players, they spent £15m+ (Jerome, Danns, sheffers, Jaidi, kelly, vine, Larsson, etc)
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Skyblueweeman
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Clocks ticking...how long do we drop? How long do we leave it before we need to make a change?
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BrisbaneBronco
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I am undecided about the pro's/cons of loan players.
The pro i can see is if they are crap or get injured, u can send them back at the end of the loan period.
The con's are if they are good, we cannot afford to buy them, and they either stay with their parent club or play at a higher level on loan.
The problem with buying players, in our case is we cannot afford them. Then if we could, we are lumbered with them.
The pro i can see is if they are crap or get injured, u can send them back at the end of the loan period.
The con's are if they are good, we cannot afford to buy them, and they either stay with their parent club or play at a higher level on loan.
The problem with buying players, in our case is we cannot afford them. Then if we could, we are lumbered with them.
BrisbaneBronco
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Also, with regards to TM, I say we should keep him for next season, however, I think he will walk. Things going on behind the scenes. CA comes in and discovers break even on gates is 14k not 11k. Maddison gets sold, JOB, gets shipped out, and TM was not able to bring in the players he wanted in Jan to maintain our promotion challenge. He has brought in some dross, I know, but probably the best he could get for his revised budget.
thewards5579
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I really don't thinly CA has been brought in as a simple replacement for Waggot, I really think hes aboard to streamline the club for a fast sale imho
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rupert_bear
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I was told Anderson stopped Mowbray signing the Dutch lad Hooi if true that wouldn't help relationships would it
Otis
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Hope that isn't true. It's a position we have been screaming out for and could have made all the difference.
clint van damme
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looking at the affect sacking Pressley and his staff had on the accounts I think it's highly unlikely TM will get the bullet.
Otis
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Suppose to counter that though, a new a manger in and the team starts winning again, the attendances will increase again.
If TM stays and we keep losing, the attendances are going to drop to 9,000 and lower. That costs us money too.
magicmanfan
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Nothing wrong with loan players, or signings if used correctly. Mowbray got it very wrong bringing in old heads at a time you were doing well. Cole was perhaps acceptable, but then Hunt etc were just crazy. You bring experienced centre halves in, or experienced calm finishers - not aged midfielders with no legs. Your run of form coincided with these signings. Too many "name" signings to attract fans in, instead of players that are young, hungry and will win games.
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magicmanfan
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On paper if it was 10 years old maybe. The most rated players in the division - Mclaughlin, Maddison, Armstrong, Dack and Sawyers, Bradshaw and Henry from us are all in their early 20s at least, trying hard to make a career foe themselves, not sitting on money they made years ago,who don't have the same motivation.
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Skyblueweeman
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Bump...how bad does it need to continue to get before everyone sees that TM is not the man to take us forward??
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Sky Blue Pete
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Can't just keep sacking the manager
oucho
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100% agree, it's got us nowhere. We lose nothing by giving him another chance next term. He is building the squad he wants. If the worst comes to the worst, we sack him in 12 months time still in this league. Best case scenario we are back in the champ. Have a bit of bloody faith!
Otis
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To be quite honest I think you only sack him once.