For those who were there at the start of it all (2 Viewers)

[Macca1987]

But isn't it the owner that has sold us this dream, come along with him to the premiership. Then we end up with no replacement midfielders and struggle again, I know it may be difficult to get them in, but there seems to be no back up plan, loanee etc, a lot of other teams can do it so why not us. DK seems blinkered in his approach to the squad, all profit bearing and not some short term investment to see us through

 

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[Brylowes]

I've been supporting the club since 1967, Robins has done an amazing job , but things change, revolve and move on. If he doesn't improve results the owner will change things.
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He would be extremely foolish to do so imho, we’ve hit a rough patch no doubt, but I would like to think DK would take more credence from Mark Robins record over the last 7 years rather than the last 7 games.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Notts County away was the day I saw better days ,the atmosphere,the camaraderie,just every emotion after the previous 10+ years . That night will never leave me ,that was special and that was the start

I have to say the fourth goal against Man Utd (the goal that never was), was the most chilling and surreal experience (in a good way) I can remember for a long time. I can't remember ever celebrating like that. Ended up in practically another block. There were three women next to me and they were throwing themselves at me one by one. Didn't know if I was coming or going. (Probably coming though).

We've have some great years with Robins. Would hate it to be all over. Fingers crossed he can turn it round.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I think what is important to remember is that whatever happens with MR over the next few weeks, the journey isn’t over for us.

The club is in the best shape it’s been for at least 40 years.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I’m sure he’ll turn things around as we tend to get going around this time (for whatever reason) but the issue atm is the team spirit and passion that got us all of those mentioned trophies and accolades has completely disappeared.

Robins has been brilliant, no doubt about it, but his task is to find a way of getting the team fighting for the badge again, if he can’t by Christmas then I believe someone else should be appointed as manager. I could be wrong here but I think I counted 4 league wins out of 19 games since the start of March, around 1 in 5, that’s ridiculously bad form. I’ve always believed in Robins but I’m not willing to blindly stick with him forever due to pure sentiment.

Why does everyone insist on including results from last season? Last season is totally irrelevant.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Why does everyone insist on including results from last season? Last season is totally irrelevant.

I just think it shows how poor we’ve been for a longer period of time than just the 7 games this season. It’s basically the same team with the same manager, just with a few months gap in between, I don’t see how you can just ignore half a season’s worth of data. People say Robins isn’t on borrowed time because he has time in the bank, are the many achievements Robins has made with with us also irrelevant because they’re from previous seasons? Obviously not.

Robins has been brilliant for us but for the last 20-30 games our play style and team spirit has disappeared almost completely. I still believe Robins will turn it around but if not then I think post-Christmas would be a good time to look for a new manager. I’m not saying we won’t pick up but if we don’t then I’m not willing to watch us finish bottom 5 just because we love the manager.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Unless we were to get really lucky with our choice, any new manager would be more likely to take us backwards rather than forwards. We would be really stupid to dispose of MR right now.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Unless we were to get really lucky with our choice, any new manager would be more likely to take us backwards rather than forwards. We would be really stupid to dispose of MR right now.

Based on what? I’d say we’d benefit from a new manager bounce as is regularly the case.

not saying sack the guy - but you have no idea who’d come in and what effect they’d have

 

[clint van damme]

I just think it shows how poor we’ve been for a longer period of time than just the 7 games this season. It’s basically the same team with the same manager, just with a few months gap in between, I don’t see how you can just ignore half a season’s worth of data. People say Robins isn’t on borrowed time because he has time in the bank, are the many achievements Robins has made with with us also irrelevant because they’re from previous seasons? Obviously not.

Robins has been brilliant for us but for the last 20-30 games our play style and team spirit has disappeared almost completely. I still believe Robins will turn it around but if not then I think post-Christmas would be a good time to look for a new manager. I’m not saying we won’t pick up but if we don’t then I’m not willing to watch us finish bottom 5 just because we love the manager.

In the period you're talking about we've come from behind to beat Leicester and Wolves.
Pulled Man U back from 3-0 down and beat Leeds.
There was nothing wrong with team spirit last season whatever else was,wrong.

The apparent issues with attitude have started this season.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Based on what? I’d say we’d benefit from a new manager bounce as is regularly the case.

not saying sack the guy - but you have no idea who’d come in and what effect they’d have

Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.

 

[Briles]

It's not so much the change in manager I'd be worried about. It's our fan base. If some are turning on a club legend like Robins imagine what they'd do to a new manager who didn't get results. Slippery slope

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.

“Most managerial changes end in failure” on what length of time?

You’re using the sample size of us between 04-11. I’d guess that someone who could galvanise and motivate would continue pushing us forward. Robins appears to not like working in this structure. There are many coaches out there that can.

 

[harvey098]

It's not so much the change in manager I'd be worried about. It's our fan base. If some are turning on a club legend like Robins imagine what they'd do to a new manager who didn't get results. Slippery slope

100% this. Cba for that every 6 months instability bollocks.

I’ll never understand some of the language used towards him each time we lose a few games by some. Thankfully they’re still the minority. Imagine how depressing shit would be after a few losses with any other manager. Fuck that.

 

[Travs]

The sad thing is, if we ever do get promoted, it will likely be the end for Robins within 6 months.

The clamour for change when we're getting pasted most weeks would be deafening.

 

[mmttww]

Piss Myself Always?

Pissed Myself, Ainnit!

 

[Hutch11]

Plausible alternative.

Plausible mild alternative

Do keep up

 

[wingy]

Some of these abbreviations take some figuring out,take Fernando's PFI V2,I thought was the economies going to bomb or even like a rocket !

 

[Hutch11]

I just think it shows how poor we’ve been for a longer period of time than just the 7 games this season. It’s basically the same team with the same manager, just with a few months gap in between, I don’t see how you can just ignore half a season’s worth of data. People say Robins isn’t on borrowed time because he has time in the bank, are the many achievements Robins has made with with us also irrelevant because they’re from previous seasons? Obviously not.

Robins has been brilliant for us but for the last 20-30 games our play style and team spirit has disappeared almost completely. I still believe Robins will turn it around but if not then I think post-Christmas would be a good time to look for a new manager. I’m not saying we won’t pick up but if we don’t then I’m not willing to watch us finish bottom 5 just because we love the manager.

Last season we were cooked and had no replacements for knackered players, totally irrelevant to what's happening now

 

[Adge]

Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.

The great Brian Clough always was worth listening too and another one of his great quotes was-
“If a chairman sacks the manager and his replacement does worse and get sacked then the Chairman should go too!”
If only that were true.

 

[bigfatronssba]

The great Brian Clough always was worth listening too and another one of his great quotes was-
“If a chairman sacks the manager and his replacement does worse and get sacked then the Chairman should go too!”
If only that were true.

My favourite quote of his:

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Last season we were cooked and had no replacements for knackered players, totally irrelevant to what's happening now

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

 

[Evo1883]

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

Different players , different coaches , different opposition coaches and players

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

Idiot

 

[Evo1883]

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

Last 3rd of the season =


From bonfire night up until that Leeds game we'd won 14 drew 5 lost 5

If we add the fa cup run we won 18 drew 5 lost 6


We quite literally fell off with 6 games to go .
It's frankly PATHETIC to even look at that form as an ongoing thing

 

[rexo87]

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

None of our players look knackered and even if they did we now have a full squad of players (maybe other than CM) who don’t really make the side any weaker. We will win a lot of games this season after December when it’s 3 games a week as other sides don’t have the depth we now do

 

[wingy]

Last 3rd of the season = View attachment 38735


From bonfire night up until that Leeds game we'd won 14 drew 5 lost 5

If we add the fa cup run we won 18 drew 5 lost 6


We quite literally fell off with 6 games to go .
It's frankly PATHETIC to even look at that form as an ongoing thing

I'm not so sure Evo,this was the time the switch of coaching changes was instigated at least talked about with Adi having his appraisal or whatever ,so not only fatigued player's but other stuff in the background upsetting the applecart, more that than prima Donna's I think?

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

From bonfire night up until that Leeds game we'd won 14 drew 5 lost 5

If we add the fa cup run we won 18 drew 5 lost 6


We quite literally fell off with 6 games to go .
It's frankly PATHETIC to even look at that form as an ongoing thing

I’d say our form was mixed from March onwards tbf, some great wins against poor sides, some losses against good sides, a few draws, nothing amazing, and then tailed off towards the end of the season. We’ve then started this season the same as the end of last season, what that means? No one’s sure, does it mean anything in the way we’re setting up? Maybe not, but it’s clearly not a good thing that we’re having these large spells of poor performances during the season.

I want to see more good performances like last night before I go around saying we’re back baby. For instance, why are we so hot and cold? That’s really got to be addressed, the team that played Spurs is absolutely miles away from the team that played Leeds and Swansea, why are we changing from outstanding to piss poor every other week?

 

[Flying Fokker]

massive week
win 2 and we are back on track 11 points from 9 would not be so bad
lose 2 and it is probably the end of an era - as MR said himself it is not sustainable

We need to massively get behind the team tonight, and then its over to them . If they dont turn up they have truly let the manager and us down - we need a Man Utd / Wolves performance tonight

We should avoid relegation if we hit that form!

 

[Flying Fokker]

I'm not so sure Evo,this was the time the switch of coaching changes was instigated at least talked about with Adi having his appraisal or whatever ,so not only fatigued player's but other stuff in the background upsetting the applecart, more that than prima Donna's I think?

Also O’Hare’s pedestrian approach to football mid-feb onwards.

 

[clint van damme]

Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.

I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.

I'll ask this question again, why did nobody tag the end of 22-23 on to the start of 23-24 when they were melting down about the poor start that season?

There was only a couple of months gap between the 2.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

I'll ask this question again, why did nobody tag the end of 22-23 on to the start of 23-24 when they were melting down about the poor start that season?

There was only a couple of months gap between the 2.

He wants Robins out but won't post it . He also thinks we should be signing Bellingham and Foden .

 

[clint van damme]

He wants Robins out but won't post it . He also thinks we should be signing Bellingham and Foden .

He's clearly not the only one.
Slating the manager in a post but throwing in the 'I don't want Robins sacked' line is a dead giveaway.

 

[wingy]

I'll ask this question again, why did nobody tag the end of 22-23 on to the start of 23-24 when they were melting down about the poor start that season?

There was only a couple of months gap between the 2.

This is the pertinent one tbf but we've had a different cause since then,an influx of finance and a new owner, not just a passive bystander?

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

Anyone else read the title of the thread and think there can't be many left from 1883 now?

 

[wingy]

Anyone else read the title of the thread and think there can't be many left from 1883 now?

Well we were post mini ice age in our formative year's and things have certainly heated up since then, question is, when will anyone be left?