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[wal3590]

I did love somebody's comment when Linnel asked why the debt had dropped from 70 last week to 45mil today... "we must have sold David Bell"

 

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[SuperCov]

Yeah I did get the impression he didn't want to say 'No' out loud so that he couldn't be held to it later on.

At one point he said we came here to gather information and then paused and changed the whole topic of convo.

 

[James Smith]

At one point he said we came here to gather information and then paused and changed the whole topic of convo.

Ooh not very secret agent stuff, wait is that a black helicopter following me....?

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Thought Mr Linell put in a man of the match performance. It genuinely sounded like he was sick of some of the spin Tim was coming out with at times, he did actually talk over him at times. Tim gave his usual performance of miss direction, evasion and miss information. This unfortunately has a long way to run and will end in the courts, and I don't think we have reached bottom yet, SISU are going no where and won't leave until some one pays them to leave. Unfortunately by the time we have starved them out their will be nothing left.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

He just blamed ACL for everything the bloke is a Clown yes they have a part top play but it is solely SISU's fault as they are the owners and run the club ACL must have caused the 60 million dept :thinking about:

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

He just blamed ACL for everything the bloke is a Clown yes they have a part top play but it is solely SISU's fault as they are the owners and run the club ACL must have caused the 60 million dept :thinking about:

You've just directly contradtcted yourself here.

You've said ACL play a part [for our situation] yet, you said SISU are solely to blame, that means there's no one else to blame but SISU, which is it?

 

[pb2875]

Academy employee paid by Limited! Think he'll be getting called into his managers office tomorrow.m

I've already had the call!

 

[Flying Fokker]

Thanks for taking the time to post that, shame he had to cut it short by 40 minutes, was there any reason that the accounts/finance guy couldn't have continued. I'm disturbed that you think we might fold.

My pessimism is borne out of witnessing his resolve. North Korea comes to mind.

 

[Bluegloucester]

I've already had the call!

Good luck, well done for standing up for the truth.

 

[grego_gee]

Especially Keith (or whatever his name was). He marked Tims cards too!

"LOOK AT ME WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU".

"I was making a note of your name Keith"

One of TF's few good answers, I thought!

The guys got a talent for making inept comments, but that doesn't prove he's wrong on anything.

imp:

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Yes You are right I meant that SISU are solely to blame for the debts they run the club ACL took what they could but should have offered a lower rent that is there only fault IMHO

You've just directly contradtcted yourself here.

You've said ACL play a part [for our situation] yet, you said SISU are solely to blame, that means there's no one else to blame but SISU, which is it?

 

[blueflint]

It would make sense that if TF still wanted to go through with building a new ground it would be better to stay at the Ricoh Arena during its construction instead of moving to Walsall..

I would be happy with that, because throughout that whole forum one thing we can all agree on is that TF is at least looking at a way to find a viable and financial method that looks to bring in improvement all around the club on and off the field by building our own ground and controlling our destiny.

i dont see that m8 only more heartbreak and debt

 

[bigfatronssba]

I've already had the call!

Hope you can find a way to let us know what is said.

 

[Lord_Nampil]

So timmy what happens if sisu don't buy ltd.....

 

[wingy]

I've already had the call!

I take it they evaded the point Paul ,but companies house is waiting.

 

[pb2875]

I take it they evaded the point Paul ,but companies house is waiting.

I evaded the call..... Can't be arsed at the mo.

 

[colin101]

Where were SISU when lack of funds resulted in a season of relegation to Division 1, we were told that season all about FFP rules, yet no other Club seemed bothered.

As for FFP rules, with a move to a third party ground and Dim Tim talking about crowds of 3,000 what sort of budget will the Club have, probably just enough if cull the existing team and turn up with Academy players and a few Sunday league legends.

After over 50 years of supporting the Sky Blues I am getting to the stage where I am going to give up on CCFC and instead find something else to do on Saturday's, perhaps I will grow to love shopping with my wife

 

[wingy]

I evaded the call..... Can't be arsed at the mo.

Thought you put both points exceptionally well and a pin could have dropped.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Yes but what if our first home game is at Walsall do we have the home end with 3000 fans while they have the away end with 5000? If at Brum the Brum fans have already said there will be trouble they don't want us there and we don't want to be there

i dont see that m8 only more heartbreak and debt

 

[pb2875]

Thought you put both points exceptionally well and a pin could have dropped.

Thanks. I might have been an employee until April this year when the tax year ended but I was a fan before and will be a fan always.

I'm just waiting written confirmation of the limited company that the PAYE no quoted on my P60 related to. Once I get it I will upload it on here!

 

[North York’s Blue]

Yes but what if our first home game is at Walsall do we have the home end with 3000 fans while they have the away end with 5000? If at Brum the Brum fans have already said there will be trouble they don't want us there and we don't want to be there

I'm sure I read somewhere that the excessive policing costs will rule Brum out, potential for lots of hassle every other week.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Yes You are right I meant that SISU are solely to blame for the debts they run the club ACL took what they could but should have offered a lower rent that is there only fault IMHO

Maybe the club wouldn't have run up such debts if we had 20k+ up the Ricoh every week? Perhaps if we could actually fill it we would be able to afford it. But apparently that would make you scum and not a real fan according to a few on here

 

[Leamington Pete]

I see the biggest issue being Fisher's admission that a club in administration cannot countenance a ground share.

So what, therefore, if we don't come out if administration on a timely basis? He can't progress the ground share arrangement. And this is out of his control.

First games are, what? Seven weeks away. Surely there's a point at which his grand plans are buggered?

This is absolutely the point which is not really being picked up on. No ground share can be sanctioned until we are out of administration, and admin can take a very long time to sort out. Time is not something we've got much of as the new season approaches. Someone made the point that there have hardly been any rumours about where we might be playing next season - my guess is that no one wants us and SISU are bluffing when they claim to be in negotiations.. SISU's grand plans might be buggered, but so could we.

 

[CCFCDan87]

Thanks. I might have been an employee until April this year when the tax year ended but I was a fan before and will be a fan always.

I'm just waiting written confirmation of the limited company that the PAYE no quoted on my P60 related to. Once I get it I will upload it on here!

Great questions mate and the whole place loved it

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

As for FFP rules, with a move to a third party ground and Dim Tim talking about crowds of 3,000 what sort of budget will the Club have, probably just enough if cull the existing team and turn up with Academy players and a few Sunday league

This is a key, key point and missed by many. FFP links our football expenditure to turnover. By moving to another clubs stadium for three years, many of the income streams claimed are necessary - such as naming rights won't be there. Small crowds will give rise to low incomes via ticket sales. Crazy though it sounds, our playing budget could be within the lowest in the division.

As such, we might not even last in the division for three years. And what chance then as a fourth tier club?!?

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Thought you put both points exceptionally well and a pin could have dropped.

Top lad well done. It takes some balls to stand up and say your piece to your employer .
Total respect

 

[lifelongcityfan]

This is a key, key point and missed by many. FFP links our football expenditure to turnover. By moving to another clubs stadium for three years, many of the income streams claimed are necessary - such as naming rights won't be there. Small crowds will give rise to low incomes via ticket sales. Crazy though it sounds, our playing budget could be within the lowest in the division.

As such, we might not even last in the division for three years. And what chance then as a fourth tier club?!?

Totally agree..this is the point i put to Timmy last week...he never answered it. I told him we would be like Oxford or Luton, and that even if we had a stadium it would not attract a worthwhilse sponsor. In the 4th division, it usually the local csrap company/taxi firm etc that sponsor the ground...DEPRESSING!!!... Force the bastards out

 

[quinn1971]

This is absolutely the point which is not really being picked up on. No ground share can be sanctioned until we are out of administration, and admin can take a very long time to sort out. Time is not something we've got much of as the new season approaches. Someone made the point that there have hardly been any rumours about where we might be playing next season - my guess is that no one wants us and SISU are bluffing when they claim to be in negotiations.. SISU's grand plans might be buggered, but so could we.

If we don't get a groundshare because we are still in admin its obvious where we'll be playing.the football league have given 3 venues that they would back for a groundshare. 2 of those have already said no...doesnt look too promising does it. Ricoh it is then.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Maybe the club wouldn't have run up such debts if we had 20k+ up the Ricoh every week? Perhaps if we could actually fill it we would be able to afford it. But apparently that would make you scum and not a real fan according to a few on here

Tim Fisher is the CEO and it is his responsibility to get customers in. The CEO of a business is solely responsible for it.

 

[wingy]

This is a key, key point and missed by many. FFP links our football expenditure to turnover. By moving to another clubs stadium for three years, many of the income streams claimed are necessary - such as naming rights won't be there. Small crowds will give rise to low incomes via ticket sales. Crazy though it sounds, our playing budget could be within the lowest in the division.

As such, we might not even last in the division for three years. And what chance then as a fourth tier club?!?[/QUO

The playing budget for this season is around half of what it is allowed to be on last years turnover circa £6M. This vital Turnover figure will very likely decrease next season to circa £2M. producing a player budget of Circa £1.2M. @ 65%. if we assume the same level of player budget as percentage next season you're looking at £0.6M.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I evaded the call..... Can't be arsed at the mo.

Well, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life! It will be ok. If you've got a bit of nouse you will get a job in a few weeks.

By the way, you obviously have.

 

[Bluegloucester]

Well, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life! It will be ok. If you've got a bit of nouse you will get a job in a few weeks.

How comforting

 

[the rumpo kid]

so call it 100 million with a new ground, at £600,000 per year in come that would take around 17 years to pay back without buying one player or paying anyone................this is a crock of shit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I see the biggest issue being Fisher's admission that a club in administration cannot countenance a ground share.

So what, therefore, if we don't come out if administration on a timely basis? He can't progress the ground share arrangement. And this is out of his control.

First games are, what? Seven weeks away. Surely there's a point at which his grand plans are buggered?

Was TF not due to have presented his hairbrained scheme to the League this or last week? The fixture list is due imminently.

 

[the rumpo kid]

They did ask. 10 year vision to get every pound from all footballing activities and have a competitive team still thinks 6-7 k will be watching at bescot

sorry didn't put the quote in
call it £100million with a new ground, at £600,000 per yer income that would take around 17 years to pay back , without buying one player or paying anybody............................... this is a crock of shit