ccfc92
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100% correct Otis.
I will always treat anyone with respect, regardless of gender, colour, religion. I base my opinion of them on how they treat me, and even then, try and be as civilised as I can.
Villa fans included, honest
I have always taught my daughter this: Treat everyone as an individual and each and every person you meet on their own individual merits.
It's ridiculous to judge a group of people based on simply colour or creed. Everyone is an individual and everyone is different.
Pretty much every religion clearly states that if you are a non-believer (so not just someone who doesn't believe in God, but in their own particular god) you are going to burn in hell.
Most Christians are a lot more fluffy with their wording of course (it's more religion lite on the whole), but if you don't accept Jesus as your saviour you will burn in the pits of hell for eternity. There is only one God. You follow any other god and therefore a false prophet, you are going to hell.
Muslims will say Christians are going to burn in hell and Christians will say Muslims will burn in hell.
Nothing worng with religion? Creeds that dictate that if you are homosexual you are an abomination?
Having faith as an individual is fine, but it is organsied religion where it all goes horribly wrong and people put faith in the letter of the 'law' from books that were written a thousand years ago and more.
Religion has an awful lot to answer for.
My next door neighbours are Christian and they are lovely, but I know deep down that they believe me and my wife and my 11 year old daughter are all going to hell.
Nice to see all the UAF-type apologists turning summersaults trying to justify their misguided views to themselves- suck it up - this is the kind of action you are inviting with your empty-headedness.
Anyway, IS have apparently claimed responsibility- who can blame them with all the outside interference in their little project in northern Iraq/Syria? UK next on the list no doubt.
Genocide has apparently been mentioned to pre-empt any such future attacks. That is a little excessive. I have found many of the muslim people I've known over the years to be very decent- I personally have a lot of time for people of faith- but I will say one thing: to a large degree their views are incompatible with those of modern western society, and even though many just get on with life, they will continue to produce sufficient numbers that detest western ways, and will be prepared to act on it. Our grandchildren will be fighting this battle unless we are prepared to grasp the nettle and act now. Do not expect our politicians to do anything- they are weak and incompetent.
This event is (probably) not connected to the current inflow from the middle east- yet! That will take a year or two- maybe ten or twenty, but it will come.
So I reiterate my earlier view: Islam has no place in Europe- to have them here will only cause problems- as it has in past centuries. Time for them to go- no genocide, nothing nasty- just tell them it was a bad idea, terminate their citizenship and give them a year or so to sort out their affairs.
We'll all be happier in the long run.
I think you are ignoring the mood of the nation. We are a democracy and you have to admit that the majority of the population would now disagree with you. Decades of propaganda and demonising the history of the UK have led to a situation where the majority are happy to see the fabric of the country change and reject anything that might be considered traditional. That's just the way it is, things go in cycles, civilisations rise and fall. Islam will be the next dominant force throughout the world including Europe. It has all the attributes to succeed. Then eventually it will get lazy and complacent like the west is now and make way for something else
I think you are ignoring the mood of the nation. We are a democracy and you have to admit that the majority of the population would now disagree with you. Decades of propaganda and demonising the history of the UK have led to a situation where the majority are happy to see the fabric of the country change and reject anything that might be considered traditional. That's just the way it is, things go in cycles, civilisations rise and fall. Islam will be the next dominant force throughout the world including Europe. It has all the attributes to succeed. Then eventually it will get lazy and complacent like the west is now and make way for something else
I would say 5 - Extermination, but then that's only because I am big fan of Doctor Who.
So how does writing one's name down prevent terrorism exactly ?
Sky News @SkyNews 27 minutes ago
France has conducted airstrikes on the IS-held Syrian city of Raqqa, involving ten fighter jets dropping 20 bombs
Mad Merkel’s ‘Refugees Welcome’ announcement created an uncontrolled flood of migrants wanting to enter the EU. Border checkpoints became overwhelmed and the normal asylum application process which previously would take weeks was reduced to hours, even minutes. Inevitably under these circumstances, false passports/false identities will have been approved and individual background checks not carried out.
It is now forecast that 1.5million migrants will enter the EU this year from the Middle East, North Africa and surrounding areas.
We are told that the vast majority are peace loving and mean us no harm.
Ok great, if we assume that majority to be 99.9%, then that would mean 1,500 have entered the EU with the intention of killing.
If it’s 99.99%, the figure is 150.
The Paris atrocities were committed by 8, at least 2 of which had entered the EU in recent weeks.
Writing down names?
Bloody hell if that’s your concept of stringent border controls no wonder Herr Soeder is worried.
Here’s the problem with porous borders:
Mad Merkel’s ‘Refugees Welcome’ announcement created an uncontrolled flood of migrants wanting to enter the EU. Border checkpoints became overwhelmed and the normal asylum application process which previously would take weeks was reduced to hours, even minutes. Inevitably under these circumstances, false passports/false identities will have been approved and individual background checks not carried out.
It is now forecast that 1.5million migrants will enter the EU this year from the Middle East, North Africa and surrounding areas.
We are told that the vast majority are peace loving and mean us no harm.
Ok great, if we assume that majority to be 99.9%, then that would mean 1,500 have entered the EU with the intention of killing.
If it’s 99.99%, the figure is 150.
The Paris atrocities were committed by 8, at least 2 of which had entered the EU in recent weeks.
Hearing Cameron and Obama on the radio yesterday just left me nauseous...fucking conspiring, devious little Zionist pigs.
What I don't get is why after attacks it is always "oh the services knew about them". If they knew about them, how did they manage that? They should be disappearing before they can do anything.
Perhaps we should put the theory to the test. Stop getting involved in other peoples battles? Would get my support. Then the attacks will stop right?
What the fuck?
Another thing that might help would be to think first what to do afterwards, before bringing down the next middle east government not convenient to the west.
They probably would never have started and we should never have followed the US around like a lap dog but I suspect we are too late now and will be permanently branded with the US tag
Try researching it instead of sounding befuddled.
Zionism does not refer to Judaism, rather quite the opposite.
Yeah, conspiracy theories are made up by the World Powers to hide what they're really doing.
last I heard Soeder was not popular with the CDU, the CSU's coalition partner ( he is CSU and wants to become head of Bavaria ). His use of Paris doesn't go down well with Germans I know. I wouldn't use him as a barometer of opinion. We knew his opinion before this. Merkel did not cause refugees to flee a worn torn hell hole. She may have helped them decide to come to Germany, but they were already on the move when she said " wir schaffen es ". If anything, Merkel and Germany are showing that Europe is helping people regardless of their religion, which may take away some of the arguments of Muslim extremists. You say 1,5 million are coming and that only 2 terrorists came with the refugees, yet all must be stopped and turned back. I would sooner listen to Merkel's reasoning than some opportunist such as Soeder.
Deluded nonsense.
Merkel's popularity levels are at an all time low. In her own party, in Germany and throughout the EU. Fact.
Her open door invitation was reckless and has directly resulted in border check points being overwhelmed and proper checks not being carried out. Fact.
To correct one of your statements, the majority of those arriving are economic migrants, not refugees 'fleeing a war torn hell hole'. Fact.
The job of EU security and intelligence services in protecting it's citizens has been made more difficult following the open door announcement. Fact.
An all time low compared with extremely popular for Merkel.
The war is the main cause of migration from Syria. Fact. Whether the migrants are leaving directly or have had enough of sitting in a Turkish camp Syria is not a place to be or to go back to. With or without Merkel there would be an immigration/ migration crisis.
Merkel sees Germany having to take refugees because of the Geneva Covention and because if Germany turned them away, Germany " wouldn't be her country ". She is not mad and you should not underrate her.
Yes, the borders have been overrun. This is the biggest migration in Europe since WWII and you cannot "credit" Merkel with that.
we are at war. Paris has confirmed that and the retaliation by France has brought it to a new level.
Economic refugees are being sent back by Germany - but at a slow pace ( 50000 this year ). This should speed up now since new laws were passed.
More ISIS volunteers are leaving or have left Europe for Syria than have come
From Syria.
We have more than enough fanatics here to cause mayhem even without new ones coming in. Closing the borders and turning our backs on refugees won't change that.
There are plenty of criminals in the country already, doesn't mean we should let more in though does it if they are among the refugees?
As soon as anybody leaves this country for Syria, they shouldn't be allowed back in.
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